Speed of Sound contest!!

[Waffle]

I've have some papers on the 262 possibly breaking the sound barrier in..will look them up / scan em and post them. Might be somewhere in a pilots report from captured 262s in 1945

[Karnak]

I used the .wind command to climb to 40,000ft.

With the Spitfire Mk XIV I reached mach 0.85 and pulled out safely at 6,000ft.

With the Mosquito Mk VI I reached mach 0.94 and pulled out safely at 4,000ft.

[Wilbus]

What Karnak said. NO plane with a prop can go beyond the speed of sound. The prop works both as thrust but also as an airbrake, once you reach a certain speed it stops working as thrust and only works as an airbrake. Anything anyone might have heard about P47 pilots or Spit pilots going faster then sound is pure BS an nothing else.

As for the 262, there is a nice homepage on the internet somewhere, I have lost the link to it. Tells the story of a 262 pilot who most likely broke the sound barrier and lived to tell the tail.

Anybody have the link?

[ergRTC]

wilbus, I dont think anybody is talking about a prop plane pulling itself to mach speeds.  

So far, it looks like the props in a dive are not doing it.


Anybody try the yaku yet?

[Wilbus]

WWII planes CAN (and could) do mach one (though only in a dive) this was demonstrated in several post war (but with WWII planes) airshows in which pilots would break the speed of sound to show off.     jstcruising

This was what I was refering to ergRTC

No, they don't do it in AH.

I see that the 262 was brought up to mach 1.01, weird that it didn't go any faster, once the sound barrier is broken the buffeting should end and the acceleration should increase again, it's that transonic part which killed airplanes.

It's belived that quite a few 262's actually broke the sound barrier in WW2 but almost all crashed due to it. The problem they had was that they passed into supersonic too slow, the plane stayed in the transonic stage too long and the plane would shake to pieces as it wasn't built for this. Once the barrier is broken the air becomes smooth around the plane again. This is also what the X# pilots described when they said their controlls locked up near Mach 1.

The 262 story on the internet about a 262 going through mach 1 was with the words of a 262 pilot. He was at 35k feet when it made a split S, before he had time to undrestand what happaned the plane started shaking violently and just a couple of seconds later he described it as being totally calm again, no buffeting, no shaking. The reason he survived was almost certainly that (if the story is infact true) he passed the transonic part quick enough for the plane to stay in one piece.

After the landed, the 262 was written off and it never flew again, he described it as being bent and twisted.

[Wilbus]

Found them!!

One of the links here.

And the story of Hans Guido Mutke.

Bonus

[Wilbus]

And the link to the front page here

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Wilbus
This was what I was refering to ergRTC

No, they don't do it in AH.

I see that the 262 was brought up to mach 1.01, weird that it didn't go any faster, once the sound barrier is broken the buffeting should end and the acceleration should increase again, it's that transonic part which killed airplanes.

Given the subject matter of AH I doubt that it has a supersonic flight model and simply (and reasonably) assumes that no supersonic flight will occur within the parameters of the game.

[Ecliptik]

Yeah, I'm sure HTC didn't bother modelling the nonlinearities of the flight dynamics at the sound barrier.  They probably just made the buffeting get worse and worse the faster you get, never expecting people to break Mach 1.