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Offline dracon

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« on: March 02, 2004, 11:38:38 PM »
Ok got to chose here?  Download and Upload speeds are identical for both.

What I have heard...

Cable:  More users, Speed decreases.

DSL:  How can to twisted copper wires be better than the 1/4" shielded wires used in cable?

Q please?  Will I see a difference between the two in Ping/Hops/Packet Loss to AH servers?

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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2004, 12:02:49 AM »
At the same up/down speeds, if price isn't a consideration, I'd choose the DSL over the cable any day of the week.  If price is a consideration - and it is for me - I would and did go with cable.  My cable connection runs fantastic and I have no complaints - except the occasional outage which is usually short.  Your experience will definitely depend on your provider and how many other users are sharing your bandwidth.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2004, 07:32:05 AM »
Generally speaking DSL is a better choice than cable for several reasons.

Cable
1)  Shares the physical medium with all your neighbors who also have it.  This immediately exposes your computer to theirs and vice-versa.
2)  Because the physical medium is shared, there is no way to control how the bandwidth is being spread out.  Simply put, it is possible for one person on a node to kill the performance of everyone else on that cable.
3)  The physical medium of cable is not required by law to be maintained.  I have a sheared cable in my back yard which has been that way for a year.

DSL
1)  Sharing of the connection occurs in the telephone switch, which is load balanced so all users get a fair shot at getting service to the packet.
2)  Because their is no physical sharing of the medium, you are instantly protected from the immediate visibilty to your neighbor.
3)  The physical phone line is protected by law and phone companies are required to keep it maintained within specific time periods.  The time period varies by state, but is generally around 24 hours for response time (residential line), less if it is a trunk line.


Given the same speed and equal price, DSL is usually the better choice.  However, the ISP is also part of the equation.  This is where things tend to break.  If the ISP does a poor job, the physical choice of which medium to use becomes moot.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2004, 11:42:56 AM »
Ok Thanks......

Yep the price is with in 2 dollars per month so no object.  Here, in Idaho, I have Cableone.net /The old @Home for cable and QWEST for DSL!

Cable quoted me: 500/126 $46/month
DSL quoted me: 640/256 and expect 80% or 512 for $44/month

Since it wasn't addressed, I presume that Ping, Hops, and Packet Losses, are  not controllable by either source?

The DSL provider actually said, "Should things change in the future, you would be upgraded to 1.5 Mbps for no cost."  I presume this means a change in the phone system, My line or Switching?

Thanks...I ordered the DSL today!
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2004, 11:56:08 AM »
Wow thats awfully expensive for such slow speeds, I get 2000/256 for $29.99

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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2004, 12:07:04 PM »
location is why ... at my dad in eastern wash. they dont have dsl or cable options ... there still paying 20 sumptin per for 56k

P.s there really isnt really much diff  in the ping times ... as for they use the same relays ect to get ya there .

Just beshure that they dont have a bandwith/transfer amount  alotment per month .
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2004, 01:22:14 PM »
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Originally posted by dracon
Ok Thanks......

Yep the price is with in 2 dollars per month so no object.  Here, in Idaho, I have Cableone.net /The old @Home for cable and QWEST for DSL!

Cable quoted me: 500/126 $46/month
DSL quoted me: 640/256 and expect 80% or 512 for $44/month

Since it wasn't addressed, I presume that Ping, Hops, and Packet Losses, are  not controllable by either source?

The DSL provider actually said, "Should things change in the future, you would be upgraded to 1.5 Mbps for no cost."  I presume this means a change in the phone system, My line or Switching?

Thanks...I ordered the DSL today!


You might want to see if other providers service your area, that is alot of $$$$ for not alot of speed

http://www.dslreports.com

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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2004, 01:39:57 PM »
It's a state thing pf.  768/128k DSL, here in Texas, will run $40/month or so.  Cable is more.  Texas has one of the weakest Public Utilites Commissions in the U.S.
They will roll over for whatever the utlity companies want.  When TXU bought Lone Star Gas (which was making a tidy profit) they requested a 200% increase for natural gas prices to customers and the PUC gave it to them.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2004, 02:13:36 PM »
Gents.....

I'm lucky to have either, let alone a choice~~  I could be bangin' two rocks together or using two cups and a string.

We are what you'd call.........REMOTE ;)

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2004, 06:27:31 PM »
Earthlink cable in Hawaii is $41/month but also includes unlimited dialup which is useful for laptop off-island.  My cable tests at 3300/356 to LA using DSL Reports.

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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2004, 08:03:54 PM »
Had a huge problem here with Bellsouth ADSL for about 6 months and decided that for $49.99 a month before "taxes" I was getting screwed for 1.5Mbps/256Kbps. So on Dec. 31st Charter came on board for $29.99 with 3Mb both ways till May 1st. Then if I still want the 3Mb cable it goes up to $39.99. I will be sticking with the higher speed. Bellsouth also had the cable television here for me and they lost that as well when they decided to raise their cost and reduce the channel lineup to "compete" with Charter. For about $15 a month more I now have Digital cable instead of the expanded basic service I did have.

The problem with my ADSL was that they would go offline from Thursday till either Sunday night or Monday morning and they kept telling me that someone had to be "turning a microwave dish" in my direction for the problem to continue. The funny thing is that my neighbor and several other friends had ADSL in the neighborhood and they weren't experiencing problems. However my boss had the same service but lives about 15 minutes from me and during the same time they had the same problem. I had been a very loyal ADSL customer for over 4 years at that time.
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2004, 08:29:25 PM »
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Here, in Idaho, I have Cableone.net /The old @Home for cable and QWEST for DSL!



I am in Idaho too. I was with QWEST DSL... the DSL was OK, when it was running.... but QWEST support just sucked. On cableone now so far so good and is running great.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2004, 08:57:05 PM »
I have Comcast getting 2950 kbps down, and 246 kbps up...works for me!  

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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2004, 09:04:55 PM »
So CAV........Where are you??  I am in Blackfoot, East side between Idaho Falls and Pocatello.

I am getting the DSL, which is QWEST through OneWest.  Here's the deal $99 dollar activation waived by QWEST.  $25 activation waived by OneWest.  1st month free.  I have nothing to lose here.  So so far so good.

Thanks again for all the feedback/advice.

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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2004, 08:39:35 AM »
I have been using ADSL through Bellsouth since 2001.  No complaints here.  I consistently get 1200+ on the downside and 250 to 300 on the upside (like I upload that much anyway).  The only time I had a service interruption was after moving to a new house and that was 6 months after I moved and had been getting DSL for $5 during that time :aok

I've had people try to tell me to go with cable, but everyone I know personally that has it has had terrible service, unexplained down times, widely fluxuating bandwidths (throughput), and other issues.  This may not be every cable user's experience, but it has been the experience of those I know.

Anyway, I'll keep my ADSL! :D
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