Author Topic: On Tap for friday the 5th of March (Read 2387 times)

Slash27 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2004, 05:47:56 PM »

ok, thanks.

Grits · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2004, 06:11:02 PM »

By saying I will use this as an opportunity to learn the P47, I am warning everyone ahead of time that I am going to be a BnZ'n, running from anything co-alt or co-E, ALT Monkey, cherrypicker as opposed to a regular weedwacking, furballing, cherrypicker.

Soulyss · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2004, 06:23:04 PM »

dweeb!

gear · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2004, 10:57:57 PM »

Kool set up looks like a blast:aok

Sakai · « **Reply #19 on:** March 04, 2004, 07:14:00 AM »

Super, thanks man.

Sakai

Soulyss · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2004, 11:30:30 AM »

I tweaked the planeset a little, and I may upset some people in doing so... but I removed the C-47 from the axis. The reasons for this is I don't want the axis to take fields in England. And the german airlift service was virtually non-exsistent in the west at this point in the war. The Axis still have the M3 to move supplies and take fields, and the France terrain I am planning on using seems to have ample remote spawns for gv's to make this possible. If gameplay during the week shows that this gives too much of an edge to the allies I will consider re-instating the C-47 for the axis and give notice in the MOTD that if any CM's see an axis field in England it is to be returned to allied hands immediately w/out prior warning.

Jester · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:33:18 PM »

Damn I hope you got a "Deep" foxhole my friend!

It's fixin to get "HOT" in here I predict.

(Throws Soulyss my helmet and flame proof suit).

Kegger26 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:17:51 PM »

I think you could add the C47 to the back feilds for the germans, since they did have JU52s still running trash and bellybutton all over france/germany. I also would like to know why there is no P51D? I mean its not really an issue for me since I prefer the Bravo model anyhow, but I think if the germans have the ME109G10 I think its only fair that we have a hot rod too.
The P51D out performs the Bravo above 15K. The P51Bs best fighting alt is between 15-20K. Where is the P51D seems to really come to life at 25K, where is is really fast. The fact that you are taking the C47s away from the axis, means its not going to be possable for a quick fight, unless we take a feild in France, other than that we will have 109G10s climbing out over the channle to fight. They will always have the alt advantage over the B model Mustang. They will also have the speed advantage.
The 109G10s get up to 25K quicker, and they carry more speed up to that alt, than both the B and the D, but the B is very reserved speed wise at 25K. So I say give the allies the D model too. It was there in 1944, it gives the less talented Pony drivers a chance to live after an attack by an alt-monkey in german iron. You could also give the axis the 190D9 to make up for the P51D addition. (I like shooting those down hehe) I think that would be fair.
Just a thought.

As you can see the G10 is faster with its long running WEP than both the B and D model stang, above 22K, it is way faster than the B model at this alt.

Soulyss · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2004, 04:07:05 PM »

I left the D pony out intentionally, I had a couple reasons for doing so pick which ever one you perfer.

1. The D model P-51 didn't begin to arrive in Europe till June of 1944, this was the early production D without the dorsal fin or the ability to carry rockets, the later production D which we have in AH would have arrived even later than that. If I included the D pony I'd also add the 190D9 and this begins to push it out of the timeframe I'm trying to portray.

2. I perfer the B pony and I was trying to focus the setup on the B pony and p-47D25, both of which are frequently overshadowed by their younger siblings the D and D30 respectively. I think the B pony can handle a the 109G10 just fine on it's own. I also want the axis to have the fastest plane available since the LW tends to be outnumbered quite frequently (as I recall) in these types of setups.

Sakai · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2004, 04:11:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Soulyss
I also want the axis to have the fastest plane available since the LW tends to be outnumbered quite frequently (as I recall) in these types of setups.

Yeah but then the allies should have 262s to compensate, right?

Sakai

Soulyss · « **Reply #25 on:** March 04, 2004, 04:19:46 PM »

Grits · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2004, 04:36:34 PM »

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Squire · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2004, 06:03:16 PM »

Im not sure what version if the P-51D didnt have the dorsal fin, none that I know of.

That being said, the P-51B was the premeir Mustang type untill the summer of 1944, and it should be the primary version for that time era.

As for the 109G-10, it wasn't in theater untill October 1944 (earliest), 10 months after the P-51B.

Its a workable setup, just saying, is all.

Soulyss · « **Reply #28 on:** March 04, 2004, 06:24:21 PM »

Interesting your info on entry date of the G10 differs from the info I have (which I admit isn't much)

Most the sources I have at home are for the U.S. planes. The info I have on the 109G10 service date was from a post on the staff forum where the G10 is listed as March '44 as entry into service(service period, no mention of which theater). That's what I was going on, other than wanting to give the axis an aircraft that was a match for the -51.

I can ask on the staff forum where the info came from, and out of curiosity where did you get your info from Squire? I could use some good LW references if you know of any.

*edit* I'll check my sources at home and see if I can find out when the dorsal fin was added. Off the top of my head if I remember correctly it was the P-51D-20 that was the first model to have the rocket rails added.

gear · « **Reply #29 on:** March 04, 2004, 06:48:15 PM »

I can understand leaving out the axsis c-47, but that meens that all the allies have to do to keep the axsis from taking bases is to just take out the VH at near any base that is in danger of capture,amd what about the gv spawn pionts? How long of a drive is it going to be? And when they get there is every thing going to back up?