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« on: March 03, 2004, 04:04:20 PM »
Michigan teacher must cover cost of substitute while on military duty


GRAND RAPIDS -- A Michigan school district told a teacher activated for military duty that he must cover the cost of a substitute during part of his absence and give the district some of his military pay.


At a school board meeting this week, angry teachers, students and district residents criticized the decision by administrators at Kenowa Hills Public Schools.


"Is this how you treat people that defend your country?" Tom Lovett, a teacher's spouse and district resident, asked board members.


Barry Bernhardt, a middle school science teacher and a National Guard reservist for at least a decade, started serving two weeks of active duty in Italy on Monday, the day of the school board meeting.


During the 10 days Bernhardt will be gone from the classroom, he will use two personal days and two compensation days during his time off.


For the remaining six days, Bernhardt must pay the district $74 per day for the substitute teacher filling in for him and turn over the $78 in salary that he will receive each day from the National Guard, The Grand Rapids Press reported.


"The district missed a golden opportunity to reflect on the patriotic duty of all Americans to, in our own way, celebrate the accomplishments of the service not only of Barry, but of all the men and women who stand for our country," said Ron La Fave, a Kenowa Hills teacher.


Superintendent Jim Gillette said the district was following the law when it crafted its agreement with Bernhardt. A similar agreement was drawn up on one other occasion, years earlier, when Bernhardt was assigned to Bosnia during a tour of duty.


In most previous years, Bernhardt has fulfilled his military assignments while on vacation, Gillette said.


"It's inaccurate to say we didn't do anything for him. We did provide significant assistance," the superintendent said, adding that the district continues to provide Bernhardt with all his other benefits during his absence.


In the end, the teacher will receive $573 more than he would have after the two-week military leave, Gillette said. Bernhardt will give the district only six days' worth of his military pay, and he also will receive a military housing allowance.


When compared to employees of private companies, the district is doing what it should to protect Bernhardt's financial stability, Gillette said.


"It's a fact that he's not losing money, that he's making money. Whatever way you look at it, he's still making money," he said.


In neighboring Grand Rapids Public Schools, teachers called to duty receive two weeks of unpaid leave but are not required to pay for a substitute teacher.


As a result of Bernhardt's situation, Kenowa Hills school board members now are likely to create a specific policy covering employee military leave.


"In the future, he's not going to get out that well," Gillette saidhttp://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm18723_20040303.htm
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Offline Hawklore

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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2004, 04:11:46 PM »
There not allowed to do that..

They have to pay it for themselves they knew what they were getting into when they hired an Enlisted member of the military force..
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2004, 04:40:52 PM »
They are allowed to do whatever they want.  The result is exactly what you are reading above.

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2004, 04:46:06 PM »
Scum.... f-scum!


I hope the people remeber this when the school board members come up for reelection.

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2004, 06:11:48 PM »
Making him pay for a substitute is not right. At least Congress passed a law that prevents reservists from LOSING money while on active duty by supplimenting their pay and allowances. Just out of curiousity, how many members of that board are veterans? My bet is 0.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2004, 06:58:37 PM »
LOL Where's Kieran  :D :aok :rofl

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2004, 07:34:51 PM »
They are NOT allowed to do that and they will shortly find out.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2004, 07:44:58 PM »
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They are NOT allowed to do that and they will shortly find out.


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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2004, 07:48:48 PM »
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LOL Where's Kieran  :D :aok :rofl


What would you like me to say, Staga? How might I perform for you? (imagine all the usual inappropriate emoticons here)

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2004, 10:35:57 PM »
They are allowed to do that... quite distinctly.  Basically.. the teacher appears to be getting full pay plus his active duty pay.  They are reducing the difference... or taking a portion of his active duty pay. (which is going to be substantially less than his teacher's pay).

This is normal for a buisness.  They don't pay your full salary while you are active duty unless they want to.  They only pay the difference (Basically... subtract your active duty pay from your salary), and they usually only have to do it for a limited time.  The only real thing they have to do is not fire you while your on active duty, and provide you with a very similar job position when you return.

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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2004, 11:19:13 PM »
My software company pays my salary when I'm out on Jury Duty, but I'm supposed to remit the $5 or whatever I get per day back to my biz.  

Is this any different?
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2004, 06:18:40 AM »
What MiniD said. You are guaranteed pay while you are gone. Doesn't mean you get paid from both places.

Somebody grabbed this and made something sensationalistic out of it. Always another side to a story...

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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2004, 06:22:59 AM »
Bastard Liberals. I bet they are all gay commies as well.

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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2004, 08:33:23 AM »
This has been all over the news in michigan.

Dont really see a problem with it.  Most companys i think would do the same thing.

He is not really losing money.  It must have been a slow news day....


btw The company i am with wont even pay if i get called into jury duty unless i have been here for over a year.

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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2004, 08:33:53 AM »
A school board is not a business.  The teacher's union (if there is one for that district) will be all over that.  Then again, he's a gov't employee after all, and he's simply going to employment within the gov't at a different capacity.  Should make for an interesting legal decision.