c.202 MUST BE DELETED FROM AH!!!!!!!

[VISCONTI]

Is incredible how a flight sim can have a plane modelled like the 202.
Is a complete unarmed plane, these MG are nothing, only graphical effects.

"... firing on a spitV from 120y glued on his tail after 2+ seconds of fire only smoke..."
(whit c205 i need less than 40 ammo to destroy spits from that distance)

202 is MA unusefull
202 is Scenarios unusefull
(no ammo to fight, i wonder how the real 4' stormo in Afrika killed 100+ fighters)

I'm really bored, how many time before someone can give an answer on MG questions????????????????????????????

Data about the 12.7 and the 7.7mm hare not simple to find, was all destroied or steal at the end of the war.
We have gun camera, pictures of ammo and ammo type, what do u need?????

People continue to ask for late war and uber cannons aircraft, well this is not the game i was thinking to support when i signed up, but i can live whit it,
i cant live whit the MG models.  

Waiting!!  

PS: sry for my aggressive post, i'm not a good diplomatic.

[AKDejaVu]

Erm... there is nothing forcing anyone to fly this plane.

There is nothing encouraging anyone to fly it either.

Who cares if it is there or not?

AKDejaVu

[Nath-BDP]

umm its too good

[Renfield]

If you don't like it so much, there is a very simple answer - DON'T FLY IT.

Why delete it? If it is that bad (seems fine to me) then just use it in scenarios where appropriate.

But why squeak about limiting the available planes? Again, if you don't like it, don't fly it.

[VISCONTI]

Renfield, how many time u have used c202 in MA????

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I doubt in your opinion." (seems fine to me)"

Anyway the problem is the MG model!

[BigJim]

heheh it IS true that AXIS mg is a waste of weight, too bad there is not someway to NOT take it <Grin>

[Mox]

I'm against removing any plane but one has to wonder why it was ever selected as a plane to be added here.

It's only uses are historical events.

Mox

[Renfield]

 

Originally posted by VISCONTI:
Renfield, how many time u have used c202 in MA????

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I doubt in your opinion...

Ah, so I see you have been looking over my shoulder every time I fly, have you? You don't have a clue what I fly in the MA. I have flown the 202 - not many times, but I have flown it. So don't try to call me a liar. That is one thing I'm not.

And my point (and others) remains. If you don't like the 202, simply don't fly it. Quit your squeaking about something that just doesn't matter.

[Dead Man Flying]

I flew the 202 the other night for kicks, and I managed eight kills in three flights.  The plane's a stinker, don't get me wrong, but it's not THAT bad.    The fact that it's underestimated is one of its greatest strengths.

-- Todd/DMF

[dbcooper]

  Now you know what it's like to go against a chog with the panzers peashooter Visconti.

[funked]

202 would be fine if we had some Hurricanes and Spitfire Mk. II's and P-40's to fight.  It is a very useful scenario plane and I'm glad it's here.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 08-25-2000).]

[juzz]

Rounds required to destroy a fighter hanger:

Browning M2 .50in: ~1300rnds
UB 12.7mm: ~1300rnds
Breda-SAFAT 12.7mm: ~1600rnds
MG 131 13mm: ~1600rnds

Relative rnds reqd

M2: 100%
UB: ~100%
B-S: ~81%
MG 131: ~81%

Now here's what I find interesting:

Relative KE
 
M2: 100%
UB: 94%
B-S: 58%
MG 131: 50%

 

whit c205 i need less than 40 ammo to destroy spits from that distance

Hmmm...MG 151/20 20mm rnds to kill hgr: ~400rnds, relative to M2: ~325%

So you would need to hit with 160rnds(7s burst) of B-S 12.7mm to do as much "damage" as the MG 151/20 can do with 40rnds(1.6s burst).

[VISCONTI]

Interesting post juzz thx.

[Vermillion]

Visconti, if your use to flying the C.205 with its cannons, I can see why your frustrated with the C.202

But to be honest, all MG planes are frustrating when compared to the cannons in this game.

For example if you fly a F4U-1C for a while, then switch to the 4 MG P-51, it will feel the exact same.

The trick to getting kills with any MG armed aircraft is to fire sustained bursts at convergence.

Stick with it  

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"

[Jigster]

 

Originally posted by Vermillion:
Visconti, if your use to flying the C.205 with its cannons, I can see why your frustrated with the C.202

But to be honest, all MG planes are frustrating when compared to the cannons in this game.

For example if you fly a F4U-1C for a while, then switch to the 4 MG P-51, it will feel the exact same.

The trick to getting kills with any MG armed aircraft is to fire sustained bursts at convergence.

Stick with it  

Actually the trick is to get between 100 and 200 yards, and don't let off the trigger till it 'splodes.

I've sawed wings off with the 202 before, it's actually got decent guns if you get close enough.

- Jig