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« Reply #90 on: March 04, 2004, 04:58:36 PM »
It was developed after the Cole incident October 2000. Completed in December 2000 and presented to Condie Rice and her group prior to the inauguration. Then it was completely ignored for 8 months.

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« Reply #91 on: March 04, 2004, 05:04:11 PM »
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It was developed after the Cole incident October 2000. Completed in December 2000 and presented to Condie Rice and her group prior to the inauguration. Then it was completely ignored for 8 months.



That's a good anwer, can you back it up?

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« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2004, 05:06:08 PM »
Man I did not know all these people worked at the White house:aok

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« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2004, 05:10:32 PM »
MT,

I believe you're referring to the plan that Clinton "planned" on carrying out, but never did.

 The one that took him 8 years to formulate, leaving him with insufficient time to put into operation.
 
The one that required far greater intelligence forces to implement that his administration was willing to fund.

 The plan Clinton's groupees began to work on after the bombing of the WTC in 1993.

 Am I right?

Thought I'd help clarify your argument those who might not have understood.

No need to thank me...us old farts have gotta stick together.

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« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2004, 05:20:50 PM »
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That's a good anwer, can you back it up?


Well you know he can Thawn,.. slap Hart + Rudman + Antiterrorism report into google.

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« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2004, 05:32:18 PM »
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That's a good anwer, can you back it up?



Easy...

TIME MAGAZINE
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented?
Long before the tragic events of September 11th, the White House debated taking the fight to al-Qaeda. It didn't happen and soon it was too late. The saga of a lost chance  
By MICHAEL ELLIOTT

Sunday, Aug. 04, 2002
Sometimes history is made by the force of arms on battlefields, sometimes by the fall of an exhausted empire. But often when historians set about figuring why a nation took one course rather than another, they are most interested in who said what to whom at a meeting far from the public eye whose true significance may have been missed even by those who took part in it.

One such meeting took place in the White House situation room during the first week of January 2001. The session was part of a program designed by Bill Clinton's National Security Adviser, Sandy Berger, who wanted the transition between the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations to run as smoothly as possible. With some bitterness, Berger remembered how little he and his colleagues had been helped by the first Bush Administration in 1992-93. Eager to avoid a repeat of that experience, he had set up a series of 10 briefings by his team for his successor, Condoleezza Rice, and her deputy, Stephen Hadley.

Berger attended only one of the briefings-the session that dealt with the threat posed to the U.S. by international terrorism, and especially by al-Qaeda. "I'm coming to this briefing," he says he told Rice, "to underscore how important I think this subject is." Later, alone in his office with Rice, Berger says he told her, "I believe that the Bush Administration will spend more time on terrorism generally, and on al-Qaeda specifically, than any other subject." The terrorism briefing was delivered by Richard Clarke, a career bureaucrat who had served in the first Bush Administration and risen during the Clinton years to become the White House's point man on terrorism. As chair of the interagency Counter-Terrorism Security Group (CSG), Clarke was known as a bit of an obsessive-just the sort of person you want in a job of that kind. Since the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen on Oct. 12, 2000-an attack that left 17 Americans dead-he had been working on an aggressive plan to take the fight to al-Qaeda. The result was a strategy paper that he had presented to Berger and the other national security "principals" on Dec. 20. But Berger and the principals decided to shelve the plan and let the next Administration take it up. With less than a month left in office, they did not think it appropriate to launch a major initiative against Osama bin Laden. "We would be handing (the Bush Administration) a war when they took office on Jan. 20," says a former senior Clinton aide. "That wasn't going to happen." Now it was up to Rice's team to consider what Clarke had put together.

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For the rest, including denials and spin...
Time Magazine

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« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2004, 06:10:46 PM »
gee MT you would have thought that in 8 years Clinton could have done SOMETHING along those lines. He was more interested in headlines than doing his job....

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« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2004, 06:16:16 PM »
Hey 10bears, it's a little more complicated than that.  Some WW2 editors are in contact with me.  THe best route is to get the modmaker in touch with me and I can slap UA control in the .pbo file

Huh? offtopic?

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« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2004, 06:22:13 PM »
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Well you know he can Thawn


Actually no I didn't, although I wouldn't be surprised as he some dates in his statement.  I've heard similar things said before, but I don't recall it ever being substantiated.

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« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2004, 06:26:23 PM »
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gee MT you would have thought that in 8 years Clinton could have done SOMETHING along those lines. He was more interested in headlines than doing his job....


The reason nothing was really done after the 1993 Twin Towers attack, according to Madiline not so Bright was the low body count...Un freaking believable.....but sadly true.

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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2004, 06:27:31 PM »
Put this in Google:

sudan osama arrest saudi clinton

You might want to add "1996" as well.
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« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2004, 06:52:08 PM »
"It begins in the 1970's in Houston, Texas, when George W. Bush was just starting out in his family's two businesses of politics and oil. The powerful - and very rich - Bin Laden family helped fund his first venture into oil.

The cozy friendship continued for decades. After a terrorist attack at a barracks in Saudi Arabia which killed 19 Americans, the bin Laden family received a multi-billion dollar contract to re-build. And incredibly, George Bush Sr. was in a business meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington on the morning of September 11th with one of Osama Bin Laden's brothers."


http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html

Great keywords for a search Toad

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« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2004, 06:53:21 PM »
ouch!

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« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2004, 07:02:40 PM »
Yeah. Make the case that the entire Bin Laden family is indistinguishable from Osama. IE, make the case they are all Al-Q terrorists.


Go ahead, I'll wait.



Otherwise, consider this:

We were friendly with OSAMA when it was in our national interest.

Is that a bad thing? If so, explain why we allied with Stalin in WW2.

When it became clear we no longer shared an interest with him and that he was in fact our enemy........ should we have worked with Sudan to take him into custody? Was Bush Sr. on watch then?

Make a big deal of Bush1 supporting Bin Laden when the US and Osama had a common enemy. Then ignore that Clinton had the chance to bag him after we knew he had turned against us.

You sound so..... "fair and balanced". :p
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« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2004, 07:18:04 PM »
15 all.

Torque to serve.

Ravs