Author Topic: Damn, joysticks are still expensive :(  (Read 836 times)

Offline Maniac

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Damn, joysticks are still expensive :(
« on: March 05, 2004, 05:09:26 AM »
Was looking around to buy a new joystick + throttle + pedals but **** its damn expensive...

Ive had the same setup since i started flying WB´s 10 years ago and they aint holding up anymore... spikes from hell etc and the pedals wont give me full deflection etc...

But hey, i dont want to pay over 300 bucks for a new setup...

Dissapointed...
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2004, 05:36:26 AM »
Buy the X-45. My X-36 still works like a charm and is nearly 4 years old. Cheap as chips if you can't afford that Cougar thing (which has its fair share of problems from what I hear).
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2004, 05:41:47 AM »
Cool thx dowding!

80 bucks for both the joystick and throttle! thats great!

Is it USB?

Do they make rudders/pedals too?
« Last Edit: March 05, 2004, 05:51:37 AM by Maniac »
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2004, 05:53:27 AM »
Whatever u do..DON't buy any Logitech crap...I'm returning my 3rd stick of their's in 4 months.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2004, 06:06:19 AM »
Well throw them brakes on for a second.  First I have heard that the older X-45 were ok, but let me recount my X-45 story for you.

Used a MS PP and CH Pro pedals for years without a problem.  The MS stick finally goes tits, and MS has gotten out of the j/s business.  

I go looking for a new stick in June of 03.  I pick up a Saitek X-45.  A really nice stick, buttons out the gazoo, a separate throttle, and really smooth inputs.  Aside from a slight problem of the stick sticking in neutral position because of the spring tension (which was easily cured with a bit of wax paper between the spring seat and retainer), I am loving this stick.

Then trouble, the hat switch starts failing to recognize the three north view positions.  No problem, only had it four months. Back to best buy it goes (they have a very good exchange policy), and I get another.  This lasts all of three months before the north hat positions fail.  Back to Best Buy again for another exchange.  The new stick lasts a mere two months before once again the three north hat views are getting hit and miss.

Just for the heck of it, I check the Saitek web site and lo and behold, this is a common problem with the newer X-45.  

So back to Best Buy again.  But this time I get a Logtech Extream 3D Pro.  I'm not happy with this stick either, so I'm still looking, but  I'll not get another X-45.  Thrice burned and all that.

Lol Sirloin, you posted while I was typing, ditto on Logtech.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2004, 06:12:51 AM »
Gah!!!

Ok, if i buy the saitek anyway...

Can i combine it with rudders from another manufactorer lets say CH rudders? and get it to work in the games?

I dont like the joystick rudder thingy... i need foot pedals...
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2004, 06:33:39 AM »
Well I have the X-36, so I couldn't comment on the problems with its replacement, the X-45. Shame if they're less reliable than predecessor. My brother has nicked my X-36 and I was going to buy an X-45 when I get back in the air! :)

It is USB, and the rudder control is on the throttle. You'd be surprised how sensitive it is too. It takes a bit of getting used to, but works like a charm. I've never felt the need to splash out on pedals, put it that way.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2004, 06:38:48 AM »
If you can still find one, I suggest a Sidewinder Precision Pro2. Best Buy had a few left on closeout.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2004, 06:56:27 AM »
Saitek evo here saving for x45 BOTH are GREAT had a logiteck extrem 3d pro...SUCKED!! went through 3 they last 2 weeks tops then the pots go out:mad:
Crap now I gotta redo my cool sig.....crap!!! I cant remeber how to do it all !!!!!

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2004, 07:43:18 AM »
x45 and ch pro pedals here no problems from etheir stick is over a year old pedals just a few months

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2004, 07:50:09 AM »
x45 & ch usb pro peds - the best bang for your buck

get a warranty on the stick if you can, as you will wear it out

I get a brand new set for $10 about every 11/12 months with my replacement plan at CompUSA

I've also heard you can get a refurbished x45 set from saitek online for $40
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2004, 08:02:10 AM »
I've got an X-45 and would like to get pedals for it. After about a year I still can't stand that rudder on the throttle. (Always preferred the twisty joystick)

Where do you plug in the CH Pro pedals? Directly into the computer USB?

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2004, 08:34:06 AM »
Buy the CH USB Fighterstick and Pro pedals.  Anything less is just a compromise.  Too expensive?  You don't need to eat lunch this week.  You were carrying a few extra pounds anyway. :p

Seriously though, you'll love the rig and it'll last you a very long time.  Plus, you can use the pedals as gas/brake for racing games.  You could buy the CH yoke instead of the Fighterstick and race with the yoke as your steering wheel.

Prices are as spec'd at http://www.provantage.com.  They charge a bit more for shipping than other mail order companies but they are extremely fast.


Fighterstick (programmable with older sims, but you don't need the programmability for Aces High)
Current price: $98 USD.


Combatstick (you can map the functions using the Aces High clipboard and save yourself some $$ over the Fighterstick.  You lose a couple of 4-way switches and get push buttons instead.)
Current price: $78 USD.



Yoke
Current price: $97.  They offer a cheaper yoke, but it lacks some of the levers and switches that the higher-end yoke has.


Pedals (the pedals slide forward/back for rudder control, and tip forward for left/right wheel brakes).
Current price: $98 USD.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2004, 08:44:16 AM by gofaster »

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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2004, 08:46:27 AM »
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Where do you plug in the CH Pro pedals? Directly into the computer USB?

Yes, and they are compatible with other USB devices.  Each USB peripheral requires its own USB port.  In the older gameport rudder pedal/joystick combo, they plugged together and then into the gameport, but for USB each peripheral has to have its own port.

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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2004, 08:47:41 AM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
x45 & ch usb pro peds - the best bang for your buck

get a warranty on the stick if you can, as you will wear it out

I get a brand new set for $10 about every 11/12 months with my replacement plan at CompUSA


You could've saved yourself some trips and simply bought a CH stick the first time around. ;)