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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2004, 09:34:09 PM »
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What this is about is a failure of Bush's economic plan. They had all these rosy projections and failed to meet them. If this were a company, it's stock would plummet.


And that would be just as illogical.  We are being driven by mob mentality rather than realizing that growth is growth and profit is profit.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2004, 01:10:33 AM »
One thing alot of people dont even consider is the possibility that things could have a hell of a lot worse than they are without the tax cuts.  Perhaps Bush prevented a economic catastrophe and what we have now is far better than what could have been!

Something to consider.  Perhaps things are alot better than they would have been under Gore.  Perhaps......
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2004, 02:20:38 AM »
Look the only way to create more jobs is to get rid of Bush and reverse the tax cuts.

Only by significantly raising taxes on businesses, investment and personal income will more jobs be created.

Believe.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2004, 02:21:25 AM »
Oh, yeah, we need to make the captial gains tax 75%. That will help a lot too.
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2004, 08:56:20 AM »
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Look the only way to create more jobs is to get rid of Bush and reverse the tax cuts.

Only by significantly raising taxes on businesses, investment and personal income will more jobs be created.

Believe.

Yes Toad, you have uncovered the secret plan. Democrats want to ruin the nation, bankrupt everyone and turn the keys over to whatever Communist nation still exists. We had 8 years to get it done with Clinton, but all that moron could do was turn the economy around after Bush1 screwed the pooch...lousy Democrats.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2004, 09:54:26 AM »
Yes indeed. The Democrats are the only ones that have access to the Business Cycle Regulator Transmutator switch.

I'm glad you agree raising taxes....... as just about every single one of the Democratic Presidential hopefuls wanted to do...... will get the ol' economy rolling again.

It sure won't be the Business Cycle in the World Economy. At least we all know that. Whew.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2004, 10:44:41 AM »
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I must agree with Saur on this one. The economy ain't the place to attack Bush's record. It's too good. We can't find enough warm bodies to build the product we've sold.

This is as bad as the reps attacking Kerry's war record. His war record is good, so is the economy. Now what else have you got?


Nobody can seriously attack kerry's war record.  Now perhaps his disingenous postwar behavior and certainly his anti national security voting record - well those are fair game.

I do wonder how kerry aims to increase jobs? What is his plan?

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2004, 11:11:02 AM »
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I do wonder how kerry aims to increase jobs? What is his plan?


You haven't been paying attention, Grun.

You simply repeal all tax cuts and then pass a tax increase.

Voila! Instant economic recovery! All the jobs will suddenly stop going to Asia, too.

All through the miracle of higher taxes.


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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2004, 11:15:47 AM »
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I do wonder how kerry aims to increase jobs? What is his plan?



Here's Kerry's plan: Hate Bush then everthying else will get better because he's going to "work his heart out" to create jobs.

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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2004, 11:23:55 AM »
Kerry's idea for an Attorney Gereral is "someone other than John Ashcroft" too.  He is a man with a plan, Kerry's our man!

Kerry's campaign is so far :

1. Bush is a failure
2. My idea of an Attorney General is someone other than   Aschcroft

3.I'm a war hero

4. The war (I approved) in Iraq was a Bush mistake

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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2004, 11:39:00 AM »
Kerry’s five-point technology plan will:

1. Encourage innovation to create high paying jobs: Kerry’s plan includes mechanisms to create jobs in the technology sector by supporting new investments in small technology companies and supporting advanced technology

( Does this seem pretty non-specific to you? "Supporting investments and technology". Where does he stand on capital gains taxes then? I can't find it on his website.)

2. Assure America has cutting edge technology for the future: Kerry would make more spectrum available for experimentation with new, more efficient technologies and radios and providing a tax credit to telecommunications companies that deploy broadband in rural and underserved parts of America.

(So just getting broadband out to the middle of Kansas, Iowa, Nevada and the Dakotas will revive our economy? It'd sure make playing AH easier when I move to Nowhere, Montana though.)


3. Make America more competitive by strengthening our markets: John Kerry would empower innovators by cracking down on trade and intellectual property violations and enhance confidence with strong corporate accountability.

(This is why all our manufacturing jobs are moving to 3rd world countries? Really? And here I thought it was because China has a few million folks eager and willing to make cheap tools that break while working for $2 an hour, free company lunch of rice included.)

4. Train a workforce prepared for the jobs of the 21st century: Kerry will work to assure every child a world class education and make college as universal as high school.

(With all the manufacturing overseas and in Mexico, what jobs does he think our kids will have? And that "world-class" education....Kerry voted for No Child Left Behind, now he attacks it on the campaign trail. Hmmmm.

5. Using technology to improve quality of life: Kerry will work to assure every child a world class education and improve health through Stem Cell research.

Ah! OK.. got it now. Stem Cell research will solve the health care program AND save the economy.
Before you start, I'm almost certain I'm NOT voting for Bush this time around. But I'm not going to pretend that Kerry has any answers. All these politicians propose tons of stuff. By the time it gets through Congress, it's all radically altered and rarely has the intended results. Kerry's proposals seem particularly non-substantial.

Not to mention the flip-flops. He voted for NAFTA and now he says he wouldn't do that again. :) Just another pol.
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2004, 01:11:31 PM »
I use two factors to judge how well the economy is doing:

1) The price of wine at the shop on the corner.  Ever since the boom of the clinton years, it's been pretty steep.  And it's stayed there.

2) The line of people that forms at 5 pm at the homeless shelter on the other corner.  Ever since W. took office, it's been getting longer.

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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2004, 01:21:05 PM »
You guys really think one guy has such a big influence on the biggest and most complex economic system in human history?