More Bad News George

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
boy john you really hate the wives of democrats. Hillary and now ms hienz, who has not even said much or done much yet.

And grun if you look at 1930, right after the market crash the number is 10 percent.

Frogman I think you ware trying to argue disingenously. I know you dont like Bush and thats perfectly fine but dont use poor and innacurate arguments like saying it was like during the 1930s implying the great depression to do it - it just makes people upset and hurts your credibility.

[Hornet]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
And that would be just as illogical.  We are being driven by mob mentality rather than realizing that growth is growth and profit is profit.

That quote basically sums up a lot of what is so frusrating about this administration.

Conservative used to mean an alliance to the American Free Market System. It puzzles me how people can dismiss the payroll report. Regardless of how its calculated it has been accepted as a market indicator, and market indicator's drive growth.

Americans in business live in a world of relative performance. Firms have to hit targets Quarter to Quarter. Now if you want to talk about loosening the focus on quarterly results akin to a European or Japanese type system that's a whole other conversation.

Bottom line: Big business threw a lot of money in Bush's pocket and the economic returns have been very poor.

Regardless of whether the economy's performance is "his fault" or not, it should be #2 on his agenda only slightly behind Foreign Policy concerns.

There is a high % of centrist conservatives out there who have an impression that the party is too focused on special interest crap like gay marriage and gun control.

America is about making money. Who wants a politician who ever thinks the economy is "good enough".

[GRUNHERZ]

Politics of extremism.

I recently read an article in newsweek or us news and world report which stated that there is  data showing that only some 7% of voters are moderate undecided "swing" voters. If this is true then that explains the extreme pandering to far left far right issues by the respective parties this year...

Anyway I suggest that you dont vote...

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Hornet
That quote basically sums up a lot of what is so frusrating about this administration.

not just the administration, includes congress and the electorate[/i]

Bottom line: Big business threw a lot of money in Bush's pocket and the economic returns have been very poor.

Regardless of whether the economy's performance is "his fault" or not, it should be #2 on his agenda only slightly behind Foreign Policy concerns.

The bottom line is the only thing that this administration can do is nudge fiscal policy.  Tax policy and spending policy is in the hands of congress and the executive can only attempt to convince congress to steer the policy.

The Fed Reserve Chairman has much more to do with the economy than does the president, and the Fed Chairman has less to do with the state of the economy than consumers en mass deciding which toy will be the next Tickle Me Elmo.

The economy is driven by the mob of consumers and when we don't behave in a manner condusive to growth we blame it on the president instead of ourselves.

[john9001]

30% of the voters are hard core republicans and will always vote republican.

30% of the voters are hard core democrat and will always vote democrat.

it's the 40% in the middle that choose the president, thats why the candidates all want to appear "moderate"