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Offline Fatty

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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2000, 01:13:00 PM »
I shoulda guessed that, used to use A8 for ground attack all the time.

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2000, 01:17:00 PM »
Not supprising that the 30mm armed 190 kills what it hits faster then anything. Hitting is the issue.
Man I wish you could select the 30mm only to fire..
But the A8 is NOT uber.
The 109G6 is..
It has bigger bumps...
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2000, 02:17:00 PM »
Dejavu;

The capabilities of A-8 were well know at JG2 two - four months ago    
So you kinda hit your axe to the stone as we say here in this case    
But I still think a bomber is better for taking down hangars. 30mm were slow but powerfull HE-ammo so it's just logical it can destroy hangars better than Hispano.
(Dreaming about A-5 With 2*108 and two Hispanos  )

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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2000, 08:50:00 PM »
I love the 30 mm's when doing ground attack against M3 and M16. The explosive blast from them don't even require you to hit real close.

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2000, 04:03:00 AM »
Do I win something for being the first one to get it right?    (Actually I already knew it would be the 190A8 based on previous experience.)

That 30mm sure is powerful, but if the other guy is doing any kind of evasives I think I'd rather have a 12.7mm.  Of course only 1 hit usually does it.  



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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2000, 06:36:00 AM »
You weren't specific enough, I win!  

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2000, 08:54:00 AM »
Hispano is a type of cannon???????

I thought it was the handle of some uber pilot!!!

 
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2000, 09:14:00 AM »
I dont see what does this have of surprise. 30mm ammo on Fw190A8 lasts for 5 seconds or so, and one single round of this can break apart a P47D, so go figure what can do 110 rounds of 30mm+300 or so of 20mm Mausers.

Try that with 4x20mm,and no MGs (experienced 190 drivers only fire cannons OR MGs, rarely both) and then post the results please, will you?

 

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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2000, 10:18:00 AM »
Rounds to kill a FH("damage" per rnd, FH "health"=1)

*Rough numbers*

Hispano Mk II: 370(0.0027)
MG 151: 440(0.0023)
Type 99 Model 2: 390(0.0026)
ShVAK: 440(0.0023)

MK 108: 130(0.0077)

To find the time to kill the FH(T), use the formula: T=1/((ROF/60)*GUNS*DAMAGE)

For example...

Fw 190A-8, 4*MG 151: T=1/[((740/60)*2*0.0023)+((629#/60)*2*0.0023)]=9.53s (# 629rpm accounts for 15% ROF loss of synchronised inners)

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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2000, 11:56:00 AM »
 
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I love the 30 mm's when doing ground attack against M3 and M16. The explosive blast from them don't even require you to hit real close.

And I love being in a panzer when a 190 is near

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2000, 02:05:00 PM »
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Juzz sez:

For example...

Fw 190A-8, 4*MG 151: T=1/[((740/60)*2*0.0023)+((629#/60)*2*0.0023)]=9.53s (# 629rpm accounts for 15% ROF loss of synchronised inners)
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Juzz, I did it again, but this time I used a stopwatch and I did it three times.  I got the same time each time for FW190 A-8: 5 seconds flat.

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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2000, 08:42:00 PM »
RAM wanted a time for only 4*MG 151/20, so I calculated it: 9.53s.

For Fw 190A-8/R2 with 2xMG 131, 2xMG 151 and 2xMK 108... 1/[((629/60)*2*0.0023)+((600/60)*2*0.0077)+((765/60*2*0.00061)] = 4.6s