luftwaffe amazing indicator

[bpti]

I was playing IL2 the other day and I noticed that on the 109 the T&B indicator and attitude indicator are a single instrument.
was it like that in real life? can someone post a real picture of an 109 or 190 instrument panel?
if that is a real instrument, how come nobody has produced it since? it makes instrument flight so much easier, not having to scan 2 instruments to know what your nose and wings are doing, for instance you know if you are coordinated, your rate of turn and your angle of attack and angle of bank just by looking at one instrument, it's amazingly intuitive to use too.

[Urchin]

I thought the attitude and bank indicators were always the same gauge.

[bpti]

no, the turn coordinator (or turn and bank indicator) and the attitude indicator(or artificial horizon) are two different instruments in all aircrfat I know.

[Cobra412]

There the same on an F-15...

[bpti]

go glass

[GScholz]

I guess it's the big one in the middle?

[bpti]

thanks a lot buddy.
see how it shows both attitude and rate of turn and the ball?
amazing.

[GScholz]

Yup. Like someone said, the Germans are renowned cuckoo clock makers.

[Cobra412]

Does anyone know where you can find upclose images of each indicator for the WWII aircraft?  Or atleast some of these aircraft?

[LLv34_Camouflage]

Originally posted by bpti
on the 109 the T&B indicator

You wont need that in the 109. Just use the B&Z gauge.

Camo

[BUG_EAF322]

must be VDO if it existed than

[HoHun]

Hi Bpti,

>if that is a real instrument, how come nobody has produced it since?

Conservative thinking? :-)

"If it was good enough for Lindbergh, it's good enough for me!"

The Americans took instrument fusion another step further at the end of WW2 and also integrated the compass in the same device.

If I remember the description correctly, you'd look at a small aircraft model in a three-dimensional instrument, with a green/blue horizon graduated with course numbers.

I think it was called "Hoover horizon" after its inventor, a test pilot who unfortunately died in an accident before he could get his invention into production.

Too bad I can't find that article again, or I would have been able to supply some more accurate information.

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

[bpti]

doesn't matter nowadays, glass instruments do show everything on one screen

[Glasses]

Unless of course the vacuum pump is messed up then you're screwed,that or electrical failure

[bpti]

they usually have backup batteries.
primary flight instruments have backups, well, of course, they need suction or electriuc too, but most airplanes also have a battery operated suction pump and so on the list of backups continues to infinity