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Offline Wlfgng

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« on: March 09, 2004, 10:03:23 AM »
should be suspended for life, without pay.

no room for hit-men in sports.

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2004, 10:11:51 AM »
amen!! i hope they fekin crucify him. I hope he has to miss the rest of the year and playoffs.. Moore did nothing to deserve that cheap shot. Moore is a rookie and doesnt play that kinda bs game. He plays straight up with nothing dirty. The whole Vancover team showed itself bastards last night..  Gawd I hope we meet them in the playoffs!!

But what record score after a record defeat! Go AVs!!!!

Edit: Sorry if you support the Vancover team but the fans at the game last night suckedass too! Cheering cause a player got hurt. .Twice they did this..
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2004, 10:16:50 AM »
watching the replays after someone linked the story to our hockey league's forums;;

ridiculous. just as bad if not worse then the mcsorley stick incident because this was obviously premediated.

stupid stupid stupid.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2004, 10:24:14 AM »
I'd like to see Bertuzzi miss at least the rest of the regular season plus the playoffs.

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2004, 10:25:25 AM »
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Originally posted by moose
watching the replays after someone linked the story to our hockey league's forums;;

ridiculous. just as bad if not worse then the mcsorley stick incident because this was obviously premediated.

stupid stupid stupid.


Could you cross link that?

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2004, 10:26:25 AM »
Av's Moore taken off on stretcher
3/9/2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - Derek Morris didn't mince words Monday night.

The Colorado defenceman called Todd Bertuzzi's vicious hit from behind on Avalanche rookie Steve Moore a disgusting, pre-meditated act.

``It was disgusting,'' an angry Morris said. ``There's no other word for that.

``I've never seen anything like that in my seven years of playing hockey (in the NHL).''

Late in the third period of Colorado's convincing 9-2 win, Bertuzzi came up behind Moore, grabbed the back of Avalanche player's sweater and delivered a round-house swing with his gloved right hand that struck Moore's head. Moore fell head first to the ice under the weight of Bertuzzi, who came down on top of him at the 8:41 mark.

A pool of blood formed around Moore's head as he lay motionless on the ice. A stretcher was wheeled out and after a delay of nearly 10 minutes the 25-year-old native of Windsor, Ont., was taken off for medical attention.

Moore was conscious and talking to medical staff when he was wheeled off the ice and then taken to hospital.

Morris compared the attack to one in which former Canuck Donald Brashear was clubbed by a stick-swinging Marty McSorley, who was suspended by the NHL and has not played in the league again.

The NHL has scheduled an in-person hearing between Bertuzzi and NHL executive vice president and director of hockey operations Colin Campbell on Wednesday at 9:00am et/6:00am pt in Toronto.

``The Brashear incident was obviously another thing that was bad but this was pre-meditated,'' Morris said. ``This is the worst thing I've seen.''

Bad blood between the two teams had been simmering since Moore's hit on Vancouver captain Markus Naslund during a game Feb. 16 in Denver. That resulted in Naslund suffering a concussion that cost him three games.

Moore wasn't penalized for the hit and the league took no action. That was of little solace at the time to Vancouver coach Marc Crawford, who called Moore's hit ``a cheap shot by a young kid on a captain, the leading scorer in the league.''

Bertuzzi received a 10-minute match penalty for his hit on the Avalanche centre Monday.

Colorado coach Tony Granato was seen screaming at Crawford and had to be restrained at his team's bench.  Granato said after the game Crawford was responsible for the actions of his team during the fight-filled game that drew 156 minutes in penalties, 99 to Vancouver.

``Three or four times we stood our ground like we had to and that thing happened to put an exclamation point on probably what they were trying to accomplish,'' said Granato. ``Something was said on their side. You just don't go out and start fighting for the fun of it.

``I didn't like the body language,'' Granato said of the Canuck coaching staff. ``I didn't like the way the whole thing transpired. There's no need for that, let's face it.''

Morris accused Crawford of laughing about the incident.

``The worst thing about it is their coach is over there laughing about it and that just shows the class of that guy,'' he said.

Naslund said after the game no player wants to see an opponent injured and that Bertuzzi felt awful about the incident.

''Obviously I think we all feel bad about someone getting hurt,'' Naslund said. ``It's a bad feeling when someone gets seriously injured like that.

``Todd feels awful about it and is very sorry. I know it might not mean much right now. As weird as it seems I don't think that was Todd's intentions.''

Bertuzzi, who was suspended 10 games two years ago for coming off the bench to join an on-ice fight, was unavailable for comment after the game.

Canuck forward Brad May, who said earlier there was a bounty on Moore for his hit on Naslund, agreed the game got out of hand.

``This game took a life of its own; it shouldn't have,'' said May who scored both Vancouver goals. ``For two-and-a-half to three weeks there's been a lot of talk.

``Not in both lockerooms. That's all I'm going to say.''

Colorado captain Joe Sakic said the incident took away from a solid performance by the Avalanche, who lost 7-1 at home the night before to Calgary.

``It was an ugly incident and it really puts a damper on the whole game,'' said Sakic who had a goal and three assists. ``There's payback but that's not payback. That's going overboard.

``And I'm sure Todd feels bad right now about the result. No player wants to see somebody go down like that.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2004, 10:27:18 AM »
That's what's wrong with hockey.

The NFL wouldn't tolerate that kind of crap without a fine being handed down.

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2004, 10:33:13 AM »
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Originally posted by gofaster
That's what's wrong with hockey.

The NFL wouldn't tolerate that kind of crap without a fine being handed down.


This is not Hockey.. You cant generalize like that.  Bertuzzi will be fined, suspended , and possibly have criminal charges brought against him. The NHL will not stand for this. He will be made an example of. Even with all that it wont be enough for the lowlife punk! Besides, what happened last night could not happen in football..
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2004, 11:18:45 AM »
well i didnt see the game nor do i even know what happend
But if im understanding this correctly one of Vancover Canucks put the big hurt on a Colo/ Av. guy

Well i seem to rememebr a few years ago what an Av. did to that Red Wing (who was it Darin McCarty)  Colo. Av's dont exactly have the rep as a fair playing team so i would take that the reason the Canucks cheered was just that to see Colo Avs getting some of there own treatment.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2004, 11:22:01 AM »
that's an idiotic statement gofaster.  
There's no room for that in any sport and the NHL and it's fans won't tollerate it.  It's criminal, not sporting.

a big hit is one thing.. it's all part of the game.. but this...
this is not part of the game at all.

It was pre-meditated bounty hunting with the intent on injuring a person.  The guy was defenseless, didn't see him coming, didn't have the puck.. was away from the play... Bertuzzi dropped his stick with the intent of injuring this guy badly-cold cocked him-then drove his (unconcious) head into the ice.   No room for it and Bertuzzi should be suspened for life without pay.  Otherwise the league sends a message of acceptance.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2004, 11:23:33 AM »
All I know is that they are replaying the Flyers/Sens game on Wednesday night in all its '23 fighting majors in the last 2 minutes and record setting PIM' glory.

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2004, 11:24:49 AM »
like I said, fighting and being physical all are part of the game.
This wasn't even close to being acceptable.

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2004, 12:06:18 PM »
I dont watch hocky because the whole game is stupid as it is played in the NHL. But I didnt see any corresponding out rage when Naslun was taken out by this rooky a few weeks ago.
Big supprise..when you punch people you can KO them. When they are on ice they can fall and hurt them selves even worse.
I really dont see how you can call something a sucker punch when the deliverer chased the recipiant arround the ice for 10 miniutes trying to get him to fight.

All the canucks fans(also all hockey players themselves) that I work with are pretty disgusted with bertruzi too. But really the distinction is beyond me.

That is what happens when you allow fighting in the game. Period. That is why fighing should not be allowed in the game period.

Thats why I only watch the NFL. They enforce the rules and keep it a sport. Both games are physically tough enough without fighting being encorage by the fans the leage and the sportcasters.

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2004, 12:13:37 PM »
have to disagree Pongo.

there's a difference, a big difference, between physicality/fighting and hitting someone that's defenselss.  I'm sure the league is looking at this the same way.

Obviously it was NOT a good thing that Naslund got cheap-shotted but there is a huge difference.  It wasn't the intent to injur.  There should've been retribution but not in this way.  It was over the top.  An open-ice hit (like the one on Naslund) isn't the same thing as skating up from behind someone and knocking them out .
Also the talk from Bertuzzi and May was the 'bounty was on Moore'... well I guess they got their way.

Look at the video again.  Tell me it's ok to knock someone out that isn't looking then drive his face/head into the ice.

If you dis-allow fighthing then things get even worse.  
It's an agressive game that's physical... but it shouldn't cross over into intentionally injuring someone.


I am sure you'll see the same from the league.

--o'course if they wore face protection like in college hockey...


btw bro... have any more Hockey hall of fame tee's ?   lol
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2004, 12:26:05 PM »
I havent even seen the video. But your statement that disallowing fighting would make it worse is nonsence.
Guys here post about wanting revenge when they play next.
Its just the WWF, nothing to do with the "sport" at all.

There is no difference. And if they change the rules of the game at the expence of Todd Bertruzi then that is just stupid.

Disallow fighting and cross checking and hooking and play the game.  All these stupid "rules" that arnt really rules. This kind of dirty hit is fine that kind of dirty hit is not fine...lol
Just enforce the rules.

Your right though. the leage will see it your way. But its beyond me.