Author Topic: Battleships? (Read 3073 times)

BenDover · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2004, 06:45:54 AM »

Heh
Imagine your in a battleship, not an enemy in sight but you're in range of an enemy field.
You ask a gv in the area for cords for a target
He gives you some cords
You then rotate your ship broadside to the target area and let off a full salvo
After a minute you hear the sounds of large cannon rounds hitting your ship, you're then back in the tower.

You then PM the gimp "YOU ****ING NUB CAKE!!!"

He replies "What??"

You "YOU GAVE ME YOUR ****ING CORDS AND THAT MEANS MY ****ING SALVO JUST KILLSHOT ME!!!"
"You owe my 700 perkpoints!!"

Him "whoopsie-spageticoes!"

Citabria · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2004, 07:30:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Jester

I would like to see more ships in AH. Would like to see more AI fleets such as convoys and ships in ports to use as targets.

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DiabloTX · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2004, 10:40:07 PM »

Well now, this then begs the question: if HTC did decide to include the BB's in AH, what class of BB should be modelled?

As a dreadnought freak from way back when I would pick...ummm, err,....I would pick...damn...ok, going back to Fighting Steel and getting my BB jones taken care of.

Later gents.

Jester · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2004, 10:50:57 PM »

Hey Diablo - got "FIGHTING STEEL" also - not a bad game except if you get too many torps in the water at one time it will crash. Too bad you can't play it online.

If we do get a BB for AH lets pick one that can be used in early as well as late war scenarios in the CT. Doesn't matter for use in the MA as any kind of BB would be correct.

US North Carolina Class would be a good one.
RN Queen Elizabeth or King George V Class.
IJN Nagato Class.

Raptor · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2004, 11:37:14 PM »

USS North Carolina has my vote:D
Most decorated ship of WW2, now docked in Wilmington, North Carolina. Great reason to model this class of ship.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2004, 11:46:05 PM »

Hey Jester-
I never had that problem with mine. When whatstheirname bought the rights to that game and added other ships the game really came to life. They remodelled the armor, penetration and damage models to make it more realistic. Of all the ships presented, believe it or not, I liked the Alaska class battlecruisers the most. Something about BC's make them more appealing to me. Needless to say I still the the best looking capital ship ever put to sea was the HMS Hood. As for AH I would like to see the Yamashiro's or the Nagato's . Or, we could just settle for the American-flagged KGV's in BF1942 (

).

I'd also have to say that the USS Texas BB-35 would be nice to but that's because I have as much time on her as I do in AH...actually, I have a LOT more time on her than on AH....but that's no surprise.

Jester · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2004, 12:30:25 AM »

Hey Diablo,
You got the web-site handy for the expansion ships? Would love to have it - never knew they put one out! If you have, my e-mail link is in my signature below.

Was always "honked off" that they didn't include the USS ARKANSAS BB-33 in the orginal list. Thought it would be cool to fight off one of the German Raiders trying to attack a convoy it was escorting.

Jester · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2004, 12:38:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Raptor01
USS North Carolina has my vote:D
Most decorated ship of WW2.

Sorry Raptor, that is a mistake.

The most decorated ship of WW2 (Any Navy, Allied or Axis) was the aircraft carrier U.S.S. ENTERPRISE CV-6. She was awarded the "Presidential Unit Citation", "Navy Unit Citation" plus 20 Battle Stars for WW2 Service.

The Battleship North Carolina only received 12 Battle Stars.

Rasker · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2004, 01:31:54 AM »

I recall the heavy cruisers Minneapolis and San Francisco also received 20+ battlestars.

Jester · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2004, 03:51:50 AM »

Nope USS ENTERPRISE CV-6 has the most at 20. Even some of the ships that fought in WW2, Korea & Vietnam and received battlestars for the actions cannot beat this figure. It is a real shame she wasn't kept as a monument after the war. A real loss.
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The subject got me curious so I went and did some research on the subject. Listed are the TOP 5 most decorated ships of the US Navy in each class. One priviso when I made up my list was that they had to see service in WW2. The numbers in parenthesis ( )are Battlestars received.

BATTLESHIPS:
1. USS New Jersey BB-62: (16) 9 WW2/ 4 Korea/ 2 Vietnam/ 1 Iraq
2. USS Washington BB-56: (13) WW2
....USS South Dakota BB-57: (13) WW2
3. USS North Carolina BB-55: (12) WW2
4. USS Massachusetts BB-59: (11) WW2
... USS Iowa BB-61: (11) 9 WW2/ 2 Korea
5. USS Tennessee BB-43 (10) WW2, NUC

AIRCRAFT CARRIERS:
1. USS Enterprise CV-6: (20) WW2, PUC, NUC
2. USS Essex CV-9: (17) 13 WW2, PUC/ 4 Korea, NUC
.....USS Ticonderoga CV-14: (17) 5 WW2, 3xNUC, MUC/12 Vietnam
3. USS Yorktown CV-10: (16) 11 WW2, PUC/ 5 Vietnam
4. USS Bellau Wood CVL-24: (12) WW2, PUC
.....USS Cowpens CVL-25: (12) WW2, NUC
5. USS Lexington CV-16: (11) WW2, PUC
.....USS Bunker Hill CV-17: (11) WW2, PUC

HEAVY CRUISERS:
1. USS San Francisco CA-38: (17) WW2
....USS St. Paul CA-73: (17) 1 WW2/ 8 Korea/ 8 Vietnam
2. USS New Orleans CA-32: (16) WW2
....USS Portland CA-33: (16) WW2
....USS Minneapolis CA-36: (16) WW2
3. USS Pensacola CA-24: (13) WW2
....USS Louisville CA-28: (13) WW2
....USS Wichita CA-45: (13) WW2
4. USS Chester CA-27: (11) WW2
5. USS Indianapolis CA-35: (10) WW2
....USS Boston CA-69: (10) WW2

LIGHT CRUISERS:
1. USS San Diego CL-53: (15) WW2
2. USS Cleveland CL-55: (13) WW2, NUC
....USS San Juan CL-54: (13) WW2
....USS Montpelier CL-57: (13) WW2
....USS Santa Fe CL-60: (13) WW2
3 USS Denver CL-58: (11) WW2, NUC
....USS St. Louis CL-49: (11) WW2
....USS Mobile CL-63: (11) WW2
4 USS Columbia CL-56: (10) WW2, NUC
....USS Nashville CL-43: (10) WW2
5. USS Birmingham CL-62: (9) WW2

NOTES:
Only the USN Capital ships are listed above. Many of the Destroyers of the fleet also had large numbers of Battlestars awarded them.

Also, Many of the Allied and Axis Navies ships also had large numbers of battle honors assigned them but except for the Imperial Japanese Navy - they were usually fewer in number than the Allied ships of WW2.

*PUC = Presidential Unit Citation
*NUC = Navy Unit Citation
*MUC = Meritorious Unit Citation

Telstar · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2004, 04:17:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Jester
Sorry Raptor, that is a mistake.

The most decorated ship of WW2 (Any Navy, Allied or Axis) was the aircraft carrier U.S.S. ENTERPRISE CV-6. She was awarded the "Presidential Unit Citation" plus 20 Battle Stars for WW2 Service.

The Battleship North Carolina only received 12 Battle Stars.

Does Capt Kirk know his ship was decorated?

I'd be well cheesed off if someone painted my ship!

DiabloTX · « **Reply #26 on:** March 15, 2004, 08:13:52 PM »

Jester-

bud, sorry it took so long to respond. Use this link to the official yahoo group of the company that bought the rights to the code for Fighting Steel. You have to join the group to use the info but it is worth it.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NWS-FSP/

This is a direct link to the sites that support the game as well:

http://www.naval-warfare.net/content/fs.html

I need to update my game as I haven't played in ages.

As for the custom mission you describe, I made one with the USS Texas escorting some four-stackers to Britain as part of lend-lease only to sight the Bismarck und Prinz Eugen coming out of the fog to the north-north west. It was pretty interesting to watch the results, namely, the Texas gets it's bellybutton handed to it everytime. But it's still fun to watch.

DiabloTX

DiabloTX · « **Reply #27 on:** March 15, 2004, 08:23:40 PM »

Also Jester, as you well know, the 12 & 14 inch guns of that time period (the USS Arkansas and the USS Texas) were completely obsolete by the time WWII came around. You really have to get in close to use those guns effectively and by the time you get there you're either sunk, have lost 80% of your main battery, or are about to get a hit in your magazine completely ruining your day.

A GREAT battle is putting the Alaska's against Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. The former's better guns and range finding equipment vs. the latter's armor makes for a good battle, although the Alaska's usually take it.

Karnak · « **Reply #28 on:** March 15, 2004, 08:56:48 PM »

Nagato was always my favorite Japanese BB, but for a sheer power thing a late war Yamato would be the way to go.

Nine 18.1in guns.
Six 6.1in guns.
Twenty-four 5in dual purpose guns.
One-hundred-thirteen 25mm AA guns.

Here are some nice pictures of a late war Yamato class BB from the same site as I got that picture:
http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/japanese_models/yamatomatteini.html

DiabloTX · « **Reply #29 on:** March 15, 2004, 09:06:22 PM »

If there was ever an example of a total waste of money, resources, and manpower, the Yamato's are it. My god, if you're gonna make the biggest baddest ship ever use them sum*****'s. What a waste...

Nice pic by the way. Like how 70,000+ tons of steel is trying to fight for it's life against a few thousand pounds of stretched aluminum-over metal ribs flown by kids that are still wet behind the ears...and the kids win.

Besides, it all led to Starblazers in the end and it saved Earth from the evil Gamma radiation. Heh...