Author Topic: Strat and Shipping (Read 270 times)

Sakai · « **on:** March 10, 2004, 09:05:47 AM »

I'd love to see resupply be handled in some areas and maps through merchant shipping. That would give new targets and a new dimension to the game. there could be escorted convoys, groups of three ships unescorted but armed merchantmen, and single ships, laden with supplies. They would transit form ports to ports and would supply us with new targets and allow the start to be more sophisticated (reduction in down times, rebuilding times--increased down times).

You could starve a team to death.

This would especially be sweet in Pacific and Meditteranean maps where shipped supplies impacted the outcomes so dramatically.

Sakai

Rasker · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2004, 09:17:49 AM »

Fuel resupply might be limited to surface transportation, train, truck or [player controlled] tanker/convoy/carrier group. The Japanese tried to avoid the U.S. submarine blockade by shipping fuel from Indonesia to the Home Islands by air, but with minimal results. I dont think the Axis in North Africa ever even tried it.

Sakai · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2004, 09:27:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Rasker
Fuel resupply might be limited to surface transportation, train, truck or [player controlled] tanker/convoy/carrier group. The Japanese tried to avoid the U.S. submarine blockade by shipping fuel from Indonesia to the Home Islands by air, but with minimal results. I dont think the Axis in North Africa ever even tried it.

The axis tried it a couple times, remember the Palm sunday massacre? P-40s slaughtered Ju-52s and a few 109 escorts got bagged to boot:

"Back in North Africa, the most successful engagement by Tomahawks was what has come to be known as the Palm Sunday Massacre. Just before sundown on Palm Sunday, 18 April 1943, P-40s on anti-transport patrol spotted over 60 Ju-52s escorted by 21 fighters off of Cape Bon, making their way to Sicily. Elements of the 57th and 324th as well as the British 92 Squadron intercepted. 11 Spitfires covered 46 P-40Fs as they pounced on the Axis formations, ripping them to shreds. The carnage ended with 59 Ju-52s and 16 fighters crashing into the sea or Tunisian soil for the loss of only 6 P-40s."

Sakai

Rasker · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2004, 09:36:49 AM »

I think at that point the LW was transporting mainly reinforcements.

It's ironic that, if Hitler had given Rommel the same number of troops in 1940 or 1941, Rommel could have taken the entire Middle East and made a back-door attack on the Caucasus, Soviet Central Asia and/or India.

frank3 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2004, 02:59:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Sakai
"Back in North Africa, the most successful engagement by Tomahawks was what has come to be known as the Palm Sunday Massacre. Just before sundown on Palm Sunday, 18 April 1943, P-40s on anti-transport patrol spotted over 60 Ju-52s escorted by 21 fighters off of Cape Bon, making their way to Sicily. Elements of the 57th and 324th as well as the British 92 Squadron intercepted. 11 Spitfires covered 46 P-40Fs as they pounced on the Axis formations, ripping them to shreds. The carnage ended with 59 Ju-52s and 16 fighters crashing into the sea or Tunisian soil for the loss of only 6 P-40s."

That's awfull...poor transport pilots, they had nowhere to go

Hap · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2004, 07:13:32 AM »

Sakai, take a peek at the battleship thread. A similar idea to yours was tossed out by Jester, then i chimed in.