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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2000, 05:12:00 PM »
I saw an interview with some German Flak Battery guys, they said the ONLY buff that made bombing runs over 30k was the Mossie.

I think a nice big FOG layer at 25k would do it :-)

At the moment we have the occassional banana (not you banana... I mean a real banana) who flies a group of buffs at 30+k to take out dar etc. Its spoiling gameplay. Pissing people off etc. I have no problems with buff guns etc, just want those altitudes tweeked a little.

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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2000, 02:48:00 AM »
It's simple; tweak the bombsight.

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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2000, 10:06:00 AM »
Or you can use the wind settings in the arena to create a large windshear at 25k that make any bombs dropped above that altitude, in effect "area bombing".

Real simple, real quick.

Of course I'm not sure the wind effects bombs, but I suspect it does.

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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2000, 10:27:00 AM »
HT,

 Please fix this problem by modeling the Me-163 Comet    I got to fly the one you modelled for WB and it was sweet!  35k buff? Pffstt! no problem  

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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2000, 10:32:00 AM »
WTG Udie!!

Me-163 Komet !!!!!

 


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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2000, 10:49:00 AM »
Yes, Komet please! (perk!)

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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2000, 07:45:00 PM »
Why didn't I think of that? Komet rocks! The fuel burn would have to be fudged for the MA though, it only had 4 minutes at full throttle in RL.

 
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Or you can use the wind settings in the arena to create a large windshear at 25k that make any bombs dropped above that altitude, in effect "area bombing".
Real simple, real quick.

Of course I'm not sure the wind effects bombs, but I suspect it does

I suspected it did too, but it seems... IT DOESN'T!!!

I set up a 100mph crosswind at 4,000ft-30,000ft, then bombed from 8,000ft, hitting a single ack with the same accuracy as normal, despite flying with the nose about 40º away from the ground path. The bombs appear to be unaffected by the wind change at 4,000ft, and the bombsight compensates perfectly for the drift angle.

I will experiment further.

Setup a 100mph crosswind again, from 15k-30k. Funny part is the wind still blows above 30k, I bombed from 33k, put a 500lb bomb within 30ft of an ack.

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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2000, 11:20:00 PM »
 
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Why didn't I think of that? Komet rocks! The fuel burn would have to be fudged for the MA though, it only had 4 minutes at full throttle in RL.

  I suspected it did too, but it seems... IT DOESN'T!!!

I set up a 100mph crosswind at 4,000ft-30,000ft, then bombed from 8,000ft, hitting a single ack with the same accuracy as normal, despite flying with the nose about 40º away from the ground path. The bombs appear to be unaffected by the wind change at 4,000ft, and the bombsight compensates perfectly for the drift angle.

I will experiment further.

Setup a 100mph crosswind again, from 15k-30k. Funny part is the wind still blows above 30k, I bombed from 33k, put a 500lb bomb within 30ft of an ack.

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Well, a realistic thing to do would be to program the Norden manually. Ya know. Download the manual, gather intellegence, and hope that it's right and still the same over the target.

Btw...was looking at what a Norden looks like at 32k (From B-29's over Japan)

AH isn't far off with zoom ability (target was a industrial port) But the clarity is way to high IMO. It looks to...3D from that alt. From that camera POV it appears very very flat from that altitude, and aircraft vibration severly limits clarity as well (Kinda like binoculars mounted to a truck dash, but to a lesser extent, very fine vibarations.)

Unless of course the B-17 has a very distant model in comparison to the B-29. (And given the time between the two there probably is)

film quality looked pretty dang good, doubt it messed the image up much because the cross hairs weren't blurred (which should be the case to a camera mounted to the plane. I'm not quite sure how the camera was installed, but it appeared to going through the eye cup. The film cut as the target moved near the center and before the drop, I suspect it was removed for final adjustments.

Maybe target confirmation or something?

- Jig

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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2000, 11:43:00 PM »
Man I would love to get my hands on a Me-163.  Haven't touched one since I played SWOTL (Ok stifle the laughs, it was many moons ago) and I thought it was a fun plane/glider to fly around and take out bombers with.  Imagine rocketing (literally, hehe) up at 16,000 feet a min, taking a whopping 2 minutes to reach a dweeb strato, make your passes and then glide back to base for some more fuel.  I can see the dweeb whines already, "Get rid of this plane, its wrecking our ruining of other peoples games....."  

(Sniffs) Ahhhhh.....I can smell the T-Stoff and C-Stoff burning through that Walther HWK 509A-1/A-2 rocket motor now (mmmmmm....T- and C-Stoff)
It would be cool if ya landed it too hard and it exploded (happened in RL) or if your fuel tanks leaked (happened also, tanks right there in the cockpit) and disolved you in your cockpit seat (and once again there are documented cases of that, pilots had to wear a special suit, and sometimes that didn't even help).  But seriously, it would be a cool aircraft to buff-bust in.  Any other takers?

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