Author Topic: No more same sex marriages for awhile LOL (Read 1218 times)

texace · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2004, 10:15:24 AM »

Here we go again.

I still don't see anything wrong with it. Day after day we're losing the freedoms we've come to enjoy.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2004, 10:58:21 AM »

You know, you can say that millions upon millions of times Texace, it will never make it true...

Mini D · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2004, 11:24:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Thud
Or when a whacky governor decides to block a college on the first day blacks are allowed in and the president has to send in the NG. Those were the days...

Actually, the president sent in Active Duty troops. It was the governer that tried to block it with NG troops. We are talking about Arkansas here... right?

MiniD

Thud · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2004, 12:32:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Actually, the president sent in Active Duty troops. It was the governer that tried to block it with NG troops. We are talking about Arkansas here... right?

MiniD

You're absolutely right, I thought the president did send in the NG again after he federalized them.

texace · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2004, 12:45:06 PM »

It won't? Let me ask you something.

Let's say, just for kicks, that someone in the United States finds that publically speaking about one's religion is offensive. This individual gets together with their friends and they form and intrest group. This intrest group...we'll call them Americans Agaist Spoken Religion...sends a lobbyist to DC to get a lawmaker to pass a law against it. Probable? No, but let's say this lobbyist makes their case and the lawmaker puts the bill into the House and Senate. The law somehow passes, and now anyone caught speaking in public about religion is fined.

Far featched, maybe, but the basic fact is this is what is going on every day. There's not constiutional ammendment against gay marriage, but lobbyists nation wide are pushing for one. Soon, it will be illegal for same sex couples to get married, but they can form civil unions? Basically, marriage without the financial benefit, so it seems. While this doesn't bother me, the fact that people can be arrested and fined for exersizing their rights as Americans seems a little...strange to me. I mean, they aren't putting anyone's life in danger, they're not a threat to society...what's the big deal?

Being a Christian nation, Christain beliefs are rampent in some of our laws. I don't see anything wrong with this, but the more people whine about how moral or how offensive something is, the more inclined Washington is to pass a law. Gay marriage will be illegal, abortion will be illegal...it's like a snowball rolling downhill. Activists get a law passed and move on to the next thing that offends them.

Am I wrong? Probably...I'm usually never right about anything on this board anyway, but I post how I feel because I can. That is...unless Congress passes a law saying we can't talk about this stuff here because some of you find it offensive. That would be a kicker, there, wouldn't it?

Scatcat · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2004, 01:02:03 PM »

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Originally posted by CavemanJ
Damn.. I better make an appointment with doc... this made sense...

I fail to see what the big deal is either. If they wanna get married, more power to'em. Call it a "civil union" to make ya feel better if ya want, but add to the law that these unions get all the same benefits of marriage. I'm just tired of hearin about it.. there's bigger fish to fry.

How much ya gonna care when some NAMBLA geezer wants to hitch up with a 12 year old boy. Whos to say "freedom" shouldn't be extended to a grown man and a boy marriage?

Munkii · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2004, 01:14:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Scatcat
How much ya gonna care when some NAMBLA geezer wants to hitch up with a 12 year old boy. Whos to say "freedom" shouldn't be extended to a grown man and a boy marriage?

This is always brought up as a defense. Last time I checked its illegal because they aren't old enough to consent. That's an interesting concept there, consent. If they were 16 in Oklahoma, the age of concent, a 60 year old and the 16 year old could shack up all they want, and get married if it was a 16 year old girl and 60 year old man. (Although parents concent is needed for marriage.) Therefore unless consent laws get changed we will have nothing to worry about NAMBLA ever getting any rights. If consent laws get changed it's not just 12 year old boys and 60 year old men you need to watch out for... it's your 12 year old daughters and 20 year old men.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2004, 01:27:46 PM »

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Originally posted by texace
Here we go again.

I still don't see anything wrong with it. Day after day we're losing the freedoms we've come to enjoy.

Not extending freedom that has never been is not the same as losing freedom already practiced.

mora · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2004, 01:44:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
I wonder why there should be gay marriages.. christian marriage was created with the man & woman in mind, not man & man

That should be decided by the religious group, not by the goverment.

texace · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:24:42 PM »

In some states (up until now) the practice of gay sex was legal. Ergo, it's a freedom that is practiced...

MJHerman · « **Reply #25 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:29:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Not extending freedom that has never been is not the same as losing freedom already practiced.

This one puzzled me.....

So if an individual never enjoyed a particular freedom, then he or she is not entitled to that freedom?

Lazerus · « **Reply #26 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:34:23 PM »

Take goverment out of marriage. Make the "tax breaks" universal to all citizens. Make the decisions in a hospital based on a living will or spouse. Eliminate the recognition of marriage by the goverment completely. The seperation of a mutually agreed upon union can still be decided in a court of law, ie child support, alimony. The only recognizable union would be through the church, which is where it started in the first place.

Simple solution to a simple problem.

SaburoS · « **Reply #27 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:37:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Scatcat
How much ya gonna care when some NAMBLA geezer wants to hitch up with a 12 year old boy. Whos to say "freedom" shouldn't be extended to a grown man and a boy marriage?

LOL, now we're talking apples and oranges.

I'd wager there is not one person on this BBS, let alone anyone we'd know personally that would support a marriage/relationship between an adult and a child. That's statutory rape in my book.

Relationships between two conscenting adults should be a non-issue, really. If they aren't victimizing anyone, we shouldn't be butting into their relationship. Too bad some here feel insecure and threatened by it.

Newflash: Having homosexual marriages legalized isn't going to increase the homosexual population. Either one is heterosexual/homosexual/etc or they are not. It is not by choice but of who they are.

Children will not get "confused" about their sexuality if they see same-sex couples kissing, holding hands, getting married, etc.

For those "espousing" their Christianity by showing their intolerence, shouldn't you let God make the final judgement?
'Let he that is without sin cast the first stone." That mean anything to you?
I wonder if God will allow those with intolerence in his heaven.
Something to think about.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:56:29 PM »

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In some states (up until now) the practice of gay sex was legal. Ergo, it's a freedom that is practiced...

So was slavery. Doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do...

vorticon · « **Reply #29 on:** March 12, 2004, 03:13:05 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
So was slavery. Doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do...

again apples and oranges