No more same sex marriages for awhile LOL

[Thud]

Originally posted by vorticon
again apples and oranges

Please elaborate instead of posting pointless oneliners...

[lasersailor184]

Actually, it's the same orchard.  Slavery is immoral, so is homosexuality.

[Thud]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Actually, it's the same orchard.  Slavery is immoral, so is homosexuality.

Oppressing blacks is immoral, oppressing gays is immoral. In both cases the culprits of the oppressing are simple, misguided, narrowminded and not too bright individuals. Think about what that implies with regards to yourself...

[Lazerus]

Oh boy, the nature or nurture argument rears its ugly head. Is it genetic, or simply a lifestyle choice.

People have genetic tendencies towards alcoholism. They choose not to drink.





So what about taking government out of marriage? No thoughts on the idea?

[LAWCobra]

Originally posted by Lazerus




So what about taking government out of marriage? No thoughts on the idea?

All for it!
marriage in my book is holy thing thats why most have it done by a priest or rabbi.
Marriage should be handled by the church and not the white house.

[-tronski-]

Originally posted by LAWCobra
All for it!
marriage in my book is holy thing thats why most have it done by a priest or rabbi.
Marriage should be handled by the church and not the white house.

So all atheists, and those married by a celebrant/civil service are not married?

 Tronsky

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by -tronski-
So all atheists, and those married by a celebrant/civil service are not married?

 Tronsky

Of course they are. If they can find a religious affiliation that will recognize them. Marriage is and has always been a religious union. If they can find a religious organization that will marry them, then they are married. The current argument is over governmental recognition. Take the government out of marriage and there is no argument at all.


Take the government out of marriage, period.

Make the taxation 'benefits' universal to all americans.

The only argument is the ability to recieve tax breaks and medical benefits through marriage.

Make them universal and end the argument.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Thud
Oppressing blacks is immoral, oppressing gays is immoral. In both cases the culprits of the oppressing are simple, misguided, narrowminded and not too bright individuals. Think about what that implies with regards to yourself...

Actually, I think there would be a stronger argument if you suggested one guy buggering another was simple, misguided, narrowminded, and not too bright.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by MJHerman
This one puzzled me.....

So if an individual never enjoyed a particular freedom, then he or she is not entitled to that freedom?

No, I was replying to a comment which said that "Day after day we're losing the freedoms we've come to enjoy."

Gay marraige is not a 'freedom we have come to enjoy' as (in all but a very few countries) it has not been legal.  In order to lose something you need to have it in the first place.

[Joc]

I can still marry a sheep right?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Actually, it's the same orchard.  Slavery is immoral, so is homosexuality.

But the bible says that slavery is okay and homosexuality is bad.

This religion stuff is so confusing.

[Mark Luper]

Originally posted by Thud
Another step back in time... Maybe it is time to keep those annoying colored people away from public transporation again too, don't you think?

Long live the land of the free!

I may be labled a bigot on this issue but so be it.

I personaly feel every individual has personal rights granted by the constitution but I don't see where personal sexual orientation should grant anyone any more rights than any other individual.

Marriage as such is primarily a relegious ceremony and as someone has already mentioned, the government got involved to make money off of it.

Personaly, I think homosexuals have a mental impairment. When I see what are obviously homosexuals I pity them. I personaly don't consider it "natural".  In society I don't treat homosexuals any differently than I do "straight" people simply because I beleive in the inaliable rights of the individual. I don't feel comfortable in the company of "blatant" homosexuals but don't have a problem associating with homosexuals who act "normal".

I have in my lifetime been approached by homosexuals and it was a scary moment to me. What was I afraid of?  I'm not sure because as soon as I communicated my lack of interest I was left alone.

I think this whole panorama has been taken to an extreme and has been publicised far too much.

A step back in time? I view this as a step forward myself.

[Shane]

Originally posted by Lazerus
Marriage is and has always been a religious union.
The only argument is the ability to recieve tax breaks and medical benefits through marriage.
Make them universal and end the argument.

 

bzzzzzzttttt... try again.

marriage has always been a social union (contract).  the church(es) only took over to weasel their way into more power (and make their own moola off it).

instead of taking gov't out of marriages, why not take religion out of the gov't.

your second point is right on target and is what's being "fought" for now.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Dowding
the only issue is whether or not it is recogized in the Christian church,  

Do you think Muslims and Jews would Marry Homosexuals in their Holy places?

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by weaselsan
Do you think Muslims and Jews would Marry Homosexuals in their Holy places?

homosexuals have their own holy places ?