Author Topic: Wiretapped Broadband (Read 834 times)

Capt. Pork · « **on:** March 12, 2004, 08:54:36 PM »

My brother-in-law said he'd rather a nuke go off in DC(he lives in metro area) than live in a police state. My belief that he's a moron was somewhat galvanized, hearing that statement.

But is a police state where we're heading, or where we already are?

Here's a recent article I found somewhat disturbing:

FBI proposal concerning Broadband providers

Dago · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2004, 09:01:06 PM »

Oh sweet Jesus, what is this thread, miko bait?

With a brother-in-law like that, I bet you wish your sister had been a lesbian?

dago

LAWCobra · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2004, 09:02:29 PM »

Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2004, 09:02:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago
With a brother-in-law like that, I bet you wish your sister had been a lesbian?

Pretty much. They do have some great kids though. Unsurprisingly, he thinks their both genuises.

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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

I agree with you there, cobra, but there's gotta be a line somewhere, right? We've got payphones here in the metro area that are marked as tapped right on the handset. This does not bother me at all. In fact, I'm still pretty far from being bothered by any of this. It's what the future holds that's questionable.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2004, 09:38:30 PM »

allowing taps on systems and having to reconfigure your system to facilitate this are completely different issues.

a wire-tap with cause is ok (and in the case of certain payphones, they are generally ones that have been used for drug trafficing. so while they may not have probable cause to listen to each person, the argument could be made that they have probable cause for the phone).

but forcing you to set up a system for easy snooping is just too damn much. it's like requiring you to build peep-holes into your house, so that if they feel the need to check up on you they can do it easily.

If someone is going to invade my privacy, or violate my rights, I'd prefer it was as difficult and costly for them as possible.

10Bears · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2004, 10:20:08 PM »

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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

Wow....

john9001 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2004, 11:10:16 PM »

if they tap my phone they will be very bored or annoyed listening to tel-marketers trying to sell my stuff.

jigsaw · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2004, 12:22:11 AM »

This is nothing new. They've been doing things like this for at least 9 years that I know of. FBI came into the data center where I used to work and set up a carnivore box in plain sight. The only new spin on this is that they're trying to set it up so that they don't have to leave their office to "tap" in.

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2004, 12:25:30 AM »

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Originally posted by jigsaw
The only new spin on this is that they're trying to set it up so that they don't have to leave their office to "tap" in.

All the exercise must have been really putting a dent into their LDL levels.

crowMAW · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2004, 06:55:31 AM »

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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

Jeez Cobra...that is like saying, "Your 10inch anal probe makes me a little uncomfortable. But if you tell me that it is to stop terrorism, I'll take it up the prettythang."

Frodo · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2004, 09:55:40 AM »

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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

Stupid

capt. apathy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2004, 10:13:35 AM »

crow,
that just might be sig material.

boxboy28 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2004, 12:02:32 PM »

IM saying POLICE STATE...................look at all thats happening
the Janet incident
Howerd Stern
ect...............

more and more right are taken away every day!

WilldCrd · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2004, 12:24:05 PM »

Well lessee Carnivore been up and running fer bout 10 or so years NSA already moniters all overseas communications and before ya go NO WAY its a program that is set to listen for KEY words think of a scanner only this one covers several acres underground and is vastly faster, since 9/11 they prolly monitore domestic as well

Sandman · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2004, 12:57:27 PM »

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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

Those who would give up essential freedoms for security, deserve neither freedom nor security. - Benjamin Franklin