Wiretapped Broadband

[Mark Luper]

Originally posted by LAWCobra
Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

It is easy to think that way I think, far too easy. If each of us takes more responsibility for what happens around us, not only just to us, but to our neighbors also, the need for giving up anything decreases.

[TBolt A-10]

No big deal.  

Now that the modes of communication are changing from telephones to VoIP, etc, etc, the Feds need access to these new systems.  As the Feds gain more access to these new systems, we don't need to feel any more encroached than we currently do when we pick up a telephone & dial.

However, we should make Cheney & Bush pay for it out of their own pockets.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by WilldCrd
Well lessee Carnivore been up and running fer bout 10 or so years NSA already moniters all overseas communications and before ya go NO WAY its a program that is set to listen for KEY words think of a scanner only this one covers several acres underground and is vastly faster, since 9/11 they prolly monitore domestic as well

Yup theres an Echelon base in NZ, just down by blenheim. Its the probably worst kept secret the US has. But I think Echelon is fairly old, based on RF technologies more than anything else?

As for monitoring the Intardnet, I could have a "tap" on your broadband access ohhhh in about 1 min at the ISPs dslam with a hub and a laptop. I could be sitting there with a readily available piece of public software dissecting practically all your traffic (cept the encrypted stuff) at the touch of a button.

ISPs have to do diddily-squat for this to happen. Listening to your traffic, seeing what you're doing, is far far easier than what many of you think.

Get your self something like IRIS, and go down to your local Public WiFi spot and have a sniff, and laugh at how much you can see.

[WilldCrd]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Yup theres an Echelon base in NZ, just down by blenheim. Its the probably worst kept secret the US has. But I think Echelon is fairly old, based on RF technologies more than anything else?

As for monitoring the Intardnet, I could have a "tap" on your broadband access ohhhh in about 1 min at the ISPs dslam with a hub and a laptop. I could be sitting there with a readily available piece of public software dissecting practically all your traffic (cept the encrypted stuff) at the touch of a button.

ISPs have to do diddily-squat for this to happen. Listening to your traffic, seeing what you're doing, is far far easier than what many of you think.

Get your self something like IRIS, and go down to your local Public WiFi spot and have a sniff, and laugh at how much you can see.

Do it all the time at starbucks and in my own neighborhood. Finally told my neighbors about it and how to close alotta of the access:rofl

[Nilsen]

Should not be hard to overload their system. Just send alot of emails with the words that are on their list....not to hard to guess what those are.

They would have to manually look at all mails containing those "bad" words to make sure they dont miss anything.

[lasersailor184]

Christ, I hope they don't tap me.




I use at least 10 "Key" words a phone conversation.

[Tuomio]

Originally posted by Nilsen10
They would have to manually look at all mails containing those "bad" words to make sure they dont miss anything.

Next natural step is ofcourse ban the use of those keywords.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by boxboy28
IM saying POLICE STATE...................look at all thats happening
the Janet incident
Howerd Stern
ect...............

more and more right are taken away every day!

ROTFLMAO......Increased the fine for indecency...was $12,000, they just paid the fine as a business expense. It was increased to $500,000 now it's a police state, they creak me up more every day.

[Nilsen]

lol Tuomio

[Twist]

Under the FBI's proposal, Internet companies would bear "sole financial responsibility for development and implementation of CALEA solutions" but would be authorized to raise prices to cover their costs.

That's just what businesses need, another unfunded mandate from our government. What are they waiting for? Just go ahead and rescind the entire bill of rights and be done with already.

[Eagler]

they'll send the Terminator back in time, he'll turn out ot be a good guy and they'll stop the police state before it happens and the robots will not take over the world

on the other hand, if any of this causes the CT to get warpy (er), I will be MAD!:mad:

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by LAWCobra
Well that makes me a little uncomfortable.
But If It used to catch terroist before they kill more innocent people i could put my civil libertys aside.

Then you are a facist.

[gofaster]

Originally posted by Capt. Pork
My brother-in-law said he'd rather a nuke go off in DC(he lives in metro area) than live in a police state. [/URL]

Tell your brother you'll be glad to come over next Friday and bludgeon him to death.  It'll be much less painful than the lingering effects of radiation poisoning.  Just make sure he updates his will to give you a cut of his estate.

Now, don't get me wrong here.  His argument would carry more weight if he'd said "I'd rather have you come over and shove a hydraulic jack up my leather cheerio (and work the handle) than have the government tap my AOL mailbox.  In fact, in order to protect my freedom, I'll drop my drawers right now and bend over.  There's a jack in the toolbox of my truck."

[mosgood]

Originally posted by gofaster
Tell your brother you'll be glad to come over next Friday and bludgeon him to death.  It'll be much less painful than the lingering effects of radiation poisoning.  Just make sure he updates his will to give you a cut of his estate.

Now, don't get me wrong here.  His argument would carry more weight if he'd said "I'd rather have you come over and shove a hydraulic jack up my leather cheerio (and work the handle) than have the government tap my AOL mailbox.  In fact, in order to protect my freedom, I'll drop my drawers right now and bend over.  There's a jack in the toolbox of my truck."

I second that!  I would rather shove a jack up your cheerio than lose my freedoms too ...   j/k

Unfortunately, losing your freedoms is easier than getting them back.  Usually, it takes a lot of blood and serious government reconstruction.