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Offline ravells

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« on: March 17, 2004, 09:39:27 AM »
Yikes, looks like imports from the US are going to get a lot more expensive:

The European Union has installed a new punishment customs vs. goods from the USA taking effect since March 1 2004. UGG [A games distributer – Ravs] has evidence of the customs since March 16.

Rate: 5% increasing by 1% every month till they can make an agreement with the USA or the economy crashes. That means in April the customs will be 6%, 7 % in May and so on up to a maximum of 17%.

The European Union wishes to force the USA to accept the judgement of the World Trade Organization. According to that judgement the USA must remove subsidies for exports of US companies.

However, we could experience how the US Government reacted on means of political suppression in the past. In alternative to  an agreement are countermeasures of the USA.

We read some articles that the US government is willing to give in.
Furthermore is stated that there would be no real harm for the European industry.

But frankly said UGG has problems to trust announcements of EU or USpoliticians. In our actual mass import UGG already paid that punishment customs.

What does this mean for you customers?
When buying a game directly from the USA you have to pay that customs fully in addition the games price taking effect immediately.  And yes the shipping costs are added to the games total. From that combined total the customs is calculated. The same calculation is made for the sales tax.

Ravs

Offline Rude

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2004, 10:20:19 AM »
Can anyone say fair trade?

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2004, 10:24:10 AM »
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The European Union wishes to force the USA to accept the judgement of the World Trade Organization. According to that judgement the USA must remove subsidies for exports of US companies.

However, we could experience how the US Government reacted on means of political suppression in the past. In alternative to an agreement are countermeasures of the USA.


Wouldn't someone like to expand on this? What WTO judgement? What export subsidies?
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2004, 10:24:19 AM »
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Originally posted by Rude
Can anyone say fair trade?

not us.
not you.

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2004, 10:35:15 AM »
We'll do steel, you do Airbus... Deal!

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2004, 10:38:56 AM »
I did a google:

WTO Dispute Settlement

US Foreign Sales Corporations (FSC): EU starts countermeasures on US products
Brussels, 1 March 2004
 
The EU countermeasures on a list of US products in the long-standing WTO dispute on the US Foreign Sales Corporations enter into force today 1 March 2004. Countermeasures on the selected products consist of an additional customs duty of 5% to be enforced as from today, followed by automatic, monthly increases by 1% up to a ceiling of 17% to be reached on 1 March 2005, if compliance has not happened in-between.

EU Trade Commissioner Pascal Lamy said: "Despite waiting for more than two years, the US has not brought its legislation in line with WTO rules. We are therefore left with no choice but to impose countermeasures. The name of the game is not retaliation but compliance: countermeasures will be lifted the day the FSC is repealed. We now need to turn our attention to the post 1 March period. In my recent trip to Washington, I have discussed this issue with the US administration and congressional leaders and I am encouraged that progress can be rapidly achieved to adopt legislation repealing the FSC. "

With the clear objective of obtaining withdrawal of the US measures, Council Regulation 2193/2003 (OJ L 328 p.3) provides for a gradual imposition of countermeasures as from 1 March 2004. It also includes a detailed list of products on which countermeasures will be applied, which was prepared following extensive consultations with EU economic operators and Member States. The countermeasures are well below the US $ 4 billion level authorised by the WTO last year.

Background

In subsequent rulings by a Panel and the Appellate Body, the WTO found the FSC to constitute an illegal export subsidy under both the Subsidies Agreement and (in relation to agricultural products) the Agriculture Agreement. The US was then given until 1 November 2000 to withdraw the FSC scheme.

On 15 November 2000, President Clinton signed the Extra Territorial Income Act (ETI), which meant to replace the FSC. The ETI Act, however, did not modify the substance of the export subsidy scheme and as a result the EU challenged it before the WTO. In January 2002, the WTO confirmed that the ETI Act also constituted a prohibited export subsidy and that the US had not, therefore, complied with its previous ruling.

On 7 May 2003 the WTO endorsed the EU request for countermeasures for a level roughly equal to the estimated annual US subsidy, i.e. US$ 4 billion. The EU had, however, avoided any immediate recourse to retaliation so as to give a reasonable time for the US Administration and Congress to adopt the necessary legislation for the repeal of FSC.

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2004, 10:42:20 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
not us.
not you.


My point precisely

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2004, 11:21:46 AM »
screw the WTO.  

we don't get to vote for those making laws in the WTO.  as a member of a democracy I don't see the need to consider their laws or regulations.  IMO we should just withdraw from the WTO all together.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2004, 11:26:10 AM »
Ah........ the Pearle and Frum retorts.:aok

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2004, 11:31:06 AM »
There's a loophole there. Follow these simple instructions to avoid these unfair custom duties.

1. Just send the 2000 tons of steel in a parcel that's wrapped as a gift.

2. Make the sender be an individual and send it to an individual here in Europe. Preferably a long-forgotten relative.

3. State CLEARLY in the box that the box doesn't contain weapons or food and mark it as a GIFT. Writing some words like "for your birthday" helps.

That way they can't do anything about it. Hah! :aok

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2004, 01:00:15 PM »