Author Topic: Kosovo (Read 2181 times)

Boroda · « **on:** March 18, 2004, 04:57:16 PM »

Did I miss a discussion about current Albanian violence in Kosovo? Can anyone give me a link to a thread where it is discussed?

Or doesn't Western media speak about it at all?...

Nilsen · « **Reply #1 on:** March 18, 2004, 05:00:42 PM »

has been all over norwegian tv.

one of our soldiers there had to kill a person that tried to drive through the blockades. Some 20 norwegian soldiers have been injured trying to keep the 2 sides form clashing.

more troops are beeing called in from around the world and it has been declared that the troops can use force (deadly?) to keep the 2 sides separated.

This looks real messy

thrila · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2004, 05:22:14 PM »

Looks like things are going to hell in Kosovo.

750 brit troops being sent to reinforce AFAIK

weaselsan · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2004, 06:11:01 PM »

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Originally posted by thrila
Looks like things are going to hell in Kosovo.

750 brit troops being sent to reinforce AFAIK

American media is ignoring Kosovo, Supposedly over after the fall of Milosivic (spelling?) Is he still on trial? It seems ethnic Albanians are breaking through barriers to attack Serbs. (ethnic cleansing in reverse?)

Udie · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2004, 06:48:14 PM »

Fox just had a little blurb on it. Not much info other than Albainians accused the Serbs of killing a couple of kids and the Surbs said we're going to start slaughtering you. And that NATO was adding another 1000 troops to the force there.

Boroda · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2004, 07:55:26 PM »

Please notice that, unfortunately, everything is going on exactly as I predicted.

This is no more then a result of a NATO policy to close their eyes on Albanian slaughter of Serbian population that lasted since 1999. The situation is exactly like in Chechnya in 1991-94. Now you have to solve this problem, and it will be worse then Chechnya.

I wonder when NATO "peacekeeppers" will run to Serbian army for assistance. They started a 1999 war to stop Serbian police operations against Albanian terrorists, and now we see a logical result of US and friends supporting terrorism.

In autumn, 1998, US Senate declared KLA a terrorist organisation. Now Kosovo is run by former KLA. You don't have to be an Einsten to understand what exactly will happen there: Chechnya is a good example.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2004, 07:59:44 PM »

we wont here much on this in the states.... Why?

More tarnish on the Clinton legacy......

Boroda · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2004, 08:07:48 PM »

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Originally posted by weaselsan
American media is ignoring Kosovo, Supposedly over after the fall of Milosivic (spelling?) Is he still on trial? It seems ethnic Albanians are breaking through barriers to attack Serbs. (ethnic cleansing in reverse?)

"Ethnic cleansings" is a newspeak term invented to justify agression against Yugoslavia. In fact before bombings started the number of Serbian and Albanian casualities was equal, about 300 from each side.

Miloshevich is still on trilal. It's surprisingly similiar to Georgiy Dimitrov's process in 1936... The only difference is that Miloshevich's defence speeches are kept away from public. BTW, he is not accused in genocide anymore.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2004, 08:30:02 PM »

Miloshevic was a victim of what happend in the 1990s, namely the vil western plot to make it seem that serb armies were invading slovenia, croatia and bosnia - when in fact all that was done by NATO commandos using stolen Yogoslav national army weapons.

Boroda · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2004, 08:58:57 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Miloshevic was a victim of what happend in the 1990s, namely the vil western plot to make it seem that serb armies were invading slovenia, croatia and bosnia - when in fact all that was done by NATO commandos using stolen Yogoslav national army weapons.

GH, did you read the transcript of first Miloshevich's speech in Hague? I bet it was never published in the West. After some of his speeches the "jury" decided to classify everything that he says, because he was "winning the propaganda war" with them. Damn. Even nazis have allowed Dimitrov to speak. God bless euro justice.

Grun, you said you completely justify Croatian/NATO operation in Srpska Krajna. For those who don't know what happened there: Krajna was a part of Croatia populated by 350 000 Serbs, and they were all thrown away or murdered in a matter of days by Croatian army backed up and supported by NATO forces. That's why I think you are too biased to be taken seriously. Sorry.

Don't you understand that Serbs were fighting terrorists in Kosovo while US supported an organisation declared "terrorist" by their own Senate?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2004, 09:18:32 PM »

Boroda your complete unbiasedness simply is a shining example to us all.

As of 1995 1/3 of Croatia's soverign territorywas still under the control of a foreign enemy power. Moreover this are was located as to almost cut the country in half at a very narrow area, especially restricing terrestrial acces to the coast and key sources
of revenue for the nations future, toursim, shipping and fishing.

This could not be allowed and the Croatians, Bosnians and USA military came together in stunning show of cooperation and military strenghth to stop this. The offensive lasted a few weeks and the nation was mostly liberated, with one small part also later returned to croatia. It was a hard fast offensive done with modern tactics and US planning.

So thats what i have to say. read what boroda says and compare. I think the "true" truth is somewhere in the middle.

Boroda did serbs actually ever kill anyone in the 1990s wars? for example just tell me which ethinc group ringed sarajevo with snipers and alitriert under a seige lasting several years?

Boroda · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2004, 09:33:00 PM »

So, in other words - Serbs in Krajna wanted to live without Croatians throwing them out of their homes and taking their possesions. This could not be allowed and the Croatians, Bosnians and USA military came together in stunning show of cooperation and military strenghth against local self-defence militia - tanks against hunting guns, and threw away or murdered 350000 ethnic Serbs. This could not be called "ethnic cleansings" because US inspired and planned the whole genocidal operation. Another victory of Democracy and Freedom over common sence and human lives.

Grun, I am biased here, and I have always admitted it.

How about US forces supporting KLA terrorists in 1999? Don't you see now who was right and who was wrong?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2004, 09:35:05 PM »

Based on the history of miloshevic during the 1990s the USa had no choice. You cant go back and stop a genocide before it starts if you wait for it to start and only then act. Clinton had to make a tough decision and act. No more BS from milosevic after he signed all those peace traties. Whatver the difficulties in Kosovo now I'm happy that another milosevic adventure was averted in 1999.

Boroda · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2004, 09:38:07 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Boroda did serbs actually ever kill anyone in the 1990s wars? for example just tell me which ethinc group ringed sarajevo with snipers and alitriert under a seige lasting several years?

Sorry, you edited your post.

Serbs were not angels. So were Croats, Bosniaques etc. But I don't like a media tendency to show only Serbs as bloody murderers and agressors. Most of the times they were victims as well.

Did you see a movie "No man's land"?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2004, 09:42:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

Did you see a movie "No man's land"?

Sure did, i own a copy.