Spawn Point camping

[Baddawg]

It sure has become all to prevalent as of late   .
Is everyone Okay with this? It sure seems to me to be DERNIER CRI

It looks to me to be the easiest way to rack up kills in a Panzer to assist in a total ranking aspect.
So my question is should people who capitalize on a flaw in the game be rewarded?

And how can someone like myself who's only claim to a multiple kill streak is a good vulch,   oppose something so similar?

Well I see the biggest difference; because spawn points have no defenses that have to be
surpassed in order to destroy the enemy.

 To much of a "quake" style of game play.
Not that there is anything wrong with quake style but why should it be replicated here?

This type of an activity  of just sitting back and pulling on the trigger as soon as someone appears on the  spawn point somehow just leaves a sour taste on my palate.

I wont berate those who partake in it but then I wonder if this activity enhances the total experience of this Sim. I personally think ..not.

[This message has been edited by Baddawg (edited 05-29-2001).]

[Wlfgng]

personally I agree... however there is an easy fix.

spawn from a different point.

It is just like trying to take off from a capped field... move to another if you don't want to get vulched.

[Zippatuh]

Don’t have any problems with someone camping at a spawn point.  Same thing for vulching.  It may be “gaming the game” but I think it’s smart.  After all, why are multiple gv’s spawning from that point, your base is under attack maybe?

Zippatuh

[Baddawg]

Wlfgng, the only problem I see is that  Time to arrive at a particular point on the map in an airplane is far less than the large amount of time it would take to take a ground vehicle to even get to the same sector.

 While I agree that if one gets vulched or is the victim of a camper that they move elsewhere,however my point is that there are certain defensive measures to curtail persistant vulching that require some risk  to reap the reward, camping on a spawn point
does not carry that same amount of effort.

 Im not angry if I get plugged spawning  but my concern is that it seems to me  that it is becoming more and more common practice.

 Although this is a gameplay issue and I should of  put in the other forum but  I cant help but stick it in here to see what Ideas come forth  to maybe set forth changes in what I feel is flawed .

 

[Ripsnort]

Well, its a tactical decision, as Zip pointed out. Your basically hitting a 'choke point'. If I spawn, and die, then I usually get a airplane with a big-assed bomb, and go back to clear that choke point out.  

I've been at both the receiving end of a camper (only spawn once, I'm smart enough to let it go, come back with an airplane, instead of playing John Wayne) and I've been the camper..anyone remember back in the old days when I used to broadcast "I own this hill!" and racked up 45+ kills?  About 30 of those kills were the same guy who kept trying to rotate his gun fast enough to shoot me...bad move.

I think some folks see it as 'gaming'...but if you told a general in WW2 that you strategically placed your tanks along a slightly elevated ridge in a hull down position  and managed to kill 45 tanks coming down out of a pass that only had one road,(Kasserin Pass in Afrika?) you'd be decorated a hero.    



[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 05-29-2001).]

[MrLars]

Thing is that the camper most likely fought his way to the spawn point, the resulting vulches are his reward. As for camping being more prevelant lately, so has continual re-spawning...you can't seperate the two!

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[Ripsnort]

LOL! Good point MrLars!  

[AKDejaVu]

 

I think some folks see it as 'gaming'...but if you told a general in WW2 that you strategically placed your tanks along a slightly elevated ridge in a hull down position and managed to kill 45 tanks coming down out of a pass that only had one road,(Kasserin Pass in Afrika?) you'd be decorated a hero.

Bingo!  Exactly what I was thinking rip.

I have never just felt the need to drive to a spawn point and just sit there waiting for someone to pop up.  Every time I've made it there, It was because there was a gv assault that was fought back to the point where I ended near the spawn point and could nail them instantly.  Had one yesterday that lasted for 30 kills.  26 of them happened at the point... 4 of them prior to reaching it.  Killed 3 ostwinds and an M3 on my way there.

Its not dweeby... it may be more gaming than simulating... but then what about GVs in AH isn't really just gaming?

AKDejaVu

[AKDejaVu]

BTW... the first tank I killed at the spawn point was RedSky.  He came after me in a Typhoon but was shot down.  A couple others spawned including RedSky to see if I was still there.  When I killed him, he brought an Il-2 in from a different base and made 2 straffing runs on me.  Someone else just chose to continually respawn.

AKDejaVu

[Wlfgng]

I agree that there is more camping and vulching.. probably due to the increase in newbies.. after all.. they're easy kills.

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by Wlfgng:
I agree that there is more camping and vulching.. probably due to the increase in newbies.. after all.. they're easy kills.

Yah, its one of those things that are fun for awhile...then the novelty wears off, or, as in Deja's scenario, you need to stop the flow of tanks (choke point) to a said airfield.

[funked]

I don't condone this kind of behavior and I would never do such a thing!

 

[AKDejaVu]

LOL Funked!

BTW... Baddawg = Dogftr

AKDejaVu

[Dago]

Capping a spawn point - frustrating when someone does it to you, a blast when you do it.  

I have been on both ends.  There are ways to kill the camper.  Couple days ago I managed to get into a camp spot, and was killing pnzrs and osties and having a blast.  They guys I was killing found a way to stop me, they spawned a whole bunch of tanks and osties at the same time.  I couldnt fire quick enough, they split up and started firing me up.  Took my gun down fast.

I have, when faced with a camper, came back in an airplane to bomb the guy.  There is always a way to stop a camper.

Dago

[Zetro]

  wow... sounds like someone is real bored

-whwk-