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Offline acepilot2

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« on: March 19, 2004, 06:56:19 PM »
IMO they are alittle too overdone and dramtic. I think it should just kinda be like a big blotch in the front section of the canopy.





those streaks run all the way down to the back of the canopy, just too lazy to snap a pic of it.


IMO should be more blotchy and concentrated in the front of the canopy like this:

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2004, 07:03:20 PM »
LOL do you think the oil is inside or outside the canopy? in the slipstream or out of it?

sorry, that's what oil would do in RL, you know like a pilot wound :D
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2004, 07:06:09 PM »
the part i dont like about it is that it is too long.

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2004, 07:09:36 PM »
I think AH cockpit damage graphics look far more realistic than Il-2s.  The density of those bullet holes is laughably high in Il-2.  A splotches of oil do not look as realistic as streaks.

Pyro did say that there was work to be done on the oil graphics.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2004, 07:11:45 PM »
in the readme for beta 18 they said it's a work in progress....

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P-51D shows oil on the canopy when the engine is damaged. This is still being worked on and
will appear on the rest of the applicable planes.
 
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2004, 08:12:51 PM »
It's the big blotches of oil that are less-realistic and the streaks of oil that more-realistic, as eagler and karnak pointed out.

Too long? in most cases the oil would start at the engine and smear it's way to the tail... it's not too long, probably too short ;)

What's pretty is beside the point for me.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2004, 10:39:01 PM »
hey he used my IL2 PICTURE!!!   lol  i dont care tho. I agree it should look more like il2

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2004, 11:54:24 PM »
Ever look closely at an old leaky prop plane?
Next time you see one, look at the oil streaks from the motor and gear.  Even airplanes that are pretty slow have oild streaks that run straight back.  That's what oil does at 100 to 500+ mph.

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2004, 03:18:27 AM »
Didn't HT lose a load of oil in his own plane recently? Even if it didn't go over the canopy I should think it provided enough inspiration to get a good approximation.

I like it. The Il-2 oil effects always looked like they were applied to a stationary plane.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2004, 04:02:06 AM »
In a book I am reading a FW 190 pilot, Hauptman Erhard Jähnert Staffelkäpitan of 2./Schlachtgeschwader 3, recounts his 599th mission flying a FW 190F-8 over of the Kurland Bridgehead:

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On 16 February 1945, I attacked enemy armor in my Focke Wolf 190. It had already gotten quite close to our main line of resistance in foggy weather about 10 kilometers southeast of Tukkum.

Three of my comrades closed up with me when I designated the target. We dove on the group of armor and fired our rockets. I was fortunate enough to knock out three enemy tanks in three passes. Three more were crippled by my comrades. Since I expended my rockets, I tried to destroy the remaining tanks, which had already turned back, with my on-board weapons. In the process my aircraft took one or two hits in the lubrication system and also in the compass connections.

Orientation was no longer possible. Vision forward was prevented by the oil film that built up on the front windshield. The cockpit canopy was also stuck, so I sat in my aircraft as if I were in a coffin.

When the engine oil ran out and the engine temperature rose, I had to make an emergency landing. I could only see to the rear, so, with a “look back” I landed on an open field near an abandoned artillery position about 30 meters from a farmstead and 80 meters from a high-tension electric line.


I am certain that my landing rates as a most extraordinary piece of good luck in aviation.

I had neither pistol nor identification with me. When I saw several soldiers in camouflage parkas draw near I grabbed the flare pistol from the cockpit and waited.

Again my luck held. They were Latvians from one of the two Latvian Waffen-SS divisions. They took me to their battalion command post.

I was well received in the grenadiers’ bunker and fed. Soon I was driven back to my airfield.


Incidentally, Erhard Jähnert received the knights cross on 18 May 1943 as a Leutnant flying stukas while attached to Stukageschwader 4.

Later as Staffelkäpitan of 9./Stukageschwader 2, he took part in that squadrons greatest success when it sank 3 soviet destroyers in the Black Sea south of the Crimea.

He was later removed from combat duty and assigned as an instructor. In the fall of 1944 at his own personal request he was transferred to the Kurland Bridgehead and made  Staffelkäpitan of 2./Schlachtgeschwader 3.

He destroyed 25 Soviet tanks while flying the FW 190F-8 over Kurland.. On the day of surrender he took what passengers he could and flew out of Kurland and landed at Flensburg. He was put up for the oak leaves but in the hectic days just prior to German capitulation the award never went through.

I include alot of extraneous details because many folks have never read anything about luftwaffe ground attack pilots late in the war.

One other thing, the incident above took place over Kurland in winter and it could be the rapid cooling of the oil thickened it. The Germans had trouble with oil during severe cold weather and with help from captured soviets the made adjustments to their winter oil cultures. Like adding diesel to thin it out etc.

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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2004, 04:11:05 AM »
One other thing...

Jähnert could be making it up, afterall he claims to have used rockets on a 190F-8!!! :eek:

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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2004, 04:29:28 AM »
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One other thing...

Jähnert could be making it up, afterall he claims to have used rockets on a 190F-8!!! :eek:

:D


He made it up, unfortunately.
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2004, 05:28:55 AM »
In the 109, the pilot could spray fuel to the windshield to clear it.

HTC, do you have plans to model this? :)

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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2004, 09:06:58 AM »
hm..maybe I was wrong about this oil thing. Then again, I have never had an oil hit in the plane I fly...

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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2004, 09:50:24 AM »
I kind of liked the oil effect in b17 2, if your oil was hit it would leave a very thick cover oil on the front of the canopy and would leave lots of streaks along the sides.

Oil would also smear along the length of the plane with looked rather cool.