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Offline Mister Fork

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« on: March 26, 2004, 03:52:22 PM »
La-7's runing your day? Spitfires buzzing you like flys?  The Combat Theatre has the setup for you!

England/France, March 1943
While America deals with the east threat of Japan, her bomber squadrons are making a dent in France and Germany. Hitler has cancelled any attempts to land in England, and with the help of Rommel he's shoring up the coast line defences. Nighttime bombing raid are now common place. British fighter squadrons are adjusting to the new Luftwaffe Fw 190.

Allies
A-20
B-26
C-47
Lancaster
Boston
Spitfire IX
Spitfire V
Typhoon
P-47D-11
Panzer
M series
Ostie

Axis
Ju-88
Ju-87
Ju-52 (C-47)
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
C.205 (exchange squadron)
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190F-8
Panzer
Tiger (France Only)
M series

Arena Settings
Fuel: 1.2
Dar: Historical
Resupply: 10 minutes
AAA: 40 mins
FH/BH/VH: 30 mins
Buildings/Town: 40 mins
Evening: 6:30pm
Morning: 5:45am

Come enjoy this historical setup in the Combat Theatre.  Just a click under the main arena login.
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2004, 04:37:15 PM »
"Dar: Historical"


What does that mean?



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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2004, 05:01:12 PM »
That means reduced range from the MA, 3.0 for enema Cons and I forget what it is for friendly Cons and dots, but its less than the MA.

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2004, 05:43:16 PM »
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Nighttime bombing raid are now common place.


Is this mostly night?

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2004, 08:13:28 PM »
All you will see is...
Spit..Spit...Spit...Spit...Sp it...Spit...Spit...Spit...Spi t...Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit ...Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit. ..Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit.. .Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit... Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit...S pit...Spit...Spit...Spit...Sp it...Spit...Spit...Spit...Spi t...Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit ...Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit. ..Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit.. .Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit... Spit
 And then more than occasional ...Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit. ..Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit.. .Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit... Spit...Spit...Spit...Spit...S pit...Spit...Spit

Enjoy

Offline Hyrax81st

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2004, 12:43:43 AM »
LOL Ikon...

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2004, 04:01:27 AM »
I enjoy the CT. Interesting matchups, and the chance to get away from LA7 opportunists, Spit dweebs and P51 cherrypickers. I kill all those in the MA far more than they kill me. And they are indeed the three planes that die the most in the entire game. I see two reasons for this -
  • There are far more P51/LA7/Spit than any other plane.
  • Many of them are flown by idiots in an attempt to overcome their own lack of skill.
So yes, I agree. The CT is a much better place to learn, and much more interesting in some ways. People whine that "there is only a limited choice of planes". But to my mind, that makes the CT MORE interesting, not less. People have to fly with lesser planes and learn how to fly them.

Folks think that having all the planes available all the time, as in the MA, means "more choice". But the actual result is that it's day after day of the same-ole-same-ole, as Mr. Fork has observed.

The Big 3 get trashed: List of planes sorted by # of deaths


Offline Swoop

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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2004, 06:00:36 AM »
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Originally posted by Grits
That means reduced range from the MA, 3.0 for enema Cons and I forget what it is for friendly Cons and dots, but its less than the MA.


Icon range has naff all to do with radar.



Now.

What is the tower based radar range?
What is the sector counter range?
Do we have full friendly radar?
Do we have tower based enemy radar?
What is the radar alt?
What is the sector counter alt?

In fact, hell, just tell me the radar mode code and I'll go look it up.


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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2004, 06:38:28 AM »
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I enjoy the CT. Interesting matchups, and the chance to get away from LA7 opportunists, Spit dweebs and P51 cherrypickers.

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Folks think that having all the planes available all the time, as in the MA, means "more choice". But the actual result is that it's day after day of the same-ole-same-ole, as Mr. Fork has observed.

 


So, with this CT setup there will not be Typoon and Fw cherrypickers? (not to mention the spit agricultural workers :D)

There is a flaw in your logic. People don't do the things you don't like because of the plane set. They do them because they believe that is the route to success.

Could you please explain for me how you arrived at your conclusion....limited choices means more choices?


SRI Beets...had to get up early this morning...I just felt the need to take it out on someone :D.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2004, 06:54:53 AM »
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Originally posted by beet1e
  • There are far more P51/LA7/Spit than any other plane.
  • Many of them are flown by idiots in an attempt to overcome their own lack of skill. [/B]
you should consider flying them.

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2004, 12:07:54 PM »
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Could you please explain for me how you arrived at your conclusion....limited choices means more choices?
Easy. In the MA, as Mr. Pork has observed, it's same-ole-same-ole. Wherever you go, you're going to see walls of Spits, LA7s, and ceilings of P51s. But in the CT, you can choose something else! Over an extended period of time, you will be able to choose other adversaries - ie not the same three all the time. A few weeks ago, it was F6F v N1K in the CT. Thus, I could have chosen to fly N1K in which case my adversary would have been F6F. Or, I could choose to fly F6F, in which case my adversary would be N1K.  But in the MA, I don't get that choice. In the MA, my most likely adversaries will be P51/Spit ix/LA7 24/7 whether I'm Rook, Bish or Knit.

Earlier it had been 109F & 190A5 versus P47 & Hurr-2. Again, two sets of adversaries to choose between, not just one! And no opportunist interlopers!

Say what you like about my logic, NB. I'm just telling you why I like the CT. And I don't think I'm alone.

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2004, 12:17:52 PM »
So basicly if everyone flew early model planes in the MA this would be a "YOUR AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY" thread right? Why constantly whine about what who flys?Pay there account and THEN you can tell people what to fly.Till then you really need to get over yourself Beet.People fly what they fly because it suits them.Doesnt make them no talent dweebs as some like to say.Its just there choice and LAST time I checked HT wasnt running a dictatorship.More like a day care at times.:lol
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2004, 12:25:01 PM »
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Originally posted by Swoop
What is the tower based radar range?
What is the sector counter range?
Do we have full friendly radar?
Do we have tower based enemy radar?
What is the radar alt?
What is the sector counter alt?


I have no idea man, I just fly to the red guys and kill them. Is it really that important?

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2004, 12:38:21 PM »
Beets...

I had a nap and I'm feeling MUCH better now :).

Ok...I will say what I want about your logic...(again) it is flawed. Actually, what you describe is options limited by the limited plane set. If you have 2 plane choices and know that your opponents have 2 plane choices..... Compared to if you have 25 plane choices and you opponents have 25 plane choices........do the math. Less ain't more :). You stated..."Earlier it had been 109F & 190A5 versus P47 & Hurr-2. Again, two sets of adversaries to choose between, not just one! And no opportunist interlopers!
". How do you figure the possiblity of facing P51/Spit/La7 is "one" possible adversary? Perhaps I should be questioning your math skills and not your logic :D.

Beets, I don't know which CT arena you have been flying in, it obviously, isn't the same one I have flown in. My recent experiences in the CT have shown it to be a mini MA. Everything that everyone complains about in the MA is there. The difference... smaller numbers.

BTW, unlike Dea, I didn't see your post as a whine. I saw it as an honest opinion. I just didn't see it as a well thought out opinion :D.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2004, 01:05:35 PM »
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My recent experiences in the CT have shown it to be a mini MA. Everything that everyone complains about in the MA is there. The difference... smaller numbers.
 


you got that pretty much spot-on, except arena settings vary as well. oh, and it's not as rampant with the milkrunning or hordes. the smaller numbers *can* make for a different experience, tho'.

which is why i always say, "whine about the pilot, not the plane."

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