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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2004, 04:17:02 AM »
lol Cerceuilvolant :D

Always nice to se an island paradise turned into a nuke desert. :eek:

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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2004, 04:58:16 AM »
yeah, or underwater nuke wasteland with furry fish that glow in the dark

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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2004, 05:04:58 AM »
They should test them in deep space :)

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2004, 05:11:18 AM »
Shhhhhhhh ;)

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2004, 05:11:42 AM »
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That's just helping evolution along Nilsen. :D

Seriously though, atmospheric nuclear testing is obviously a horrible thing to do to any environment. Underground testing is however not that bad, but must (or should) be limited to dessert areas for obvious reasons.


Personally, I don't like it when people blow up my icecream.

But seriously, let's turn this mindless picture-posting thread into a political discussion that will inevitably end in the criticism of US policies.

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2004, 05:13:24 AM »
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Personally, I don't like it when people blow up my icecream.

But seriously, let's turn this mindless picture-posting thread into a political discussion that will inevitably end in the criticism of US policies.


And french :)

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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2004, 05:16:36 AM »
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useless dessert to test on.  


How dare you! Don't ever refer to my chocolate eclair as useless!

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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2004, 05:25:56 AM »
would a nuke explode the same in space, as it does on earth?
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2004, 05:30:58 AM »
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would a nuke explode the same in space, as it does on earth?

Depends on what you mean.

EM radiation travels far more freely in space, but with the lack of an atmosphere, anything suseptible to radiation would already be thoroughly cooked by the sun. Other than that, concussion would have far less effect, as there would be no air for the waves to propogate through. Heat would dissipate faster, and have a smaller effect radius. There would obviously be no sound.

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2004, 05:40:59 AM »
Sorry, yes i meant how would the destructive force compare in space as it does on earth.

thanks.
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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2004, 05:46:06 AM »
Surrounding a big warhead with a giant water-filled bladder might solve the concussion problem, creating a high-speed wave of gaseous vapor that would move out to great distances from the explosion, largely unimpeded by air molecules that absorb the impact inside the atmosphere. The bladder would have to be the size of a several oil tankers, of course, and cost a pretty penny to get up there or mine in space, but it would be a neat trick to try.

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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2004, 05:49:38 AM »
It could also be tested as a future engine. Just imagine the thrust a normal nuclear explosion would provide.

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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2004, 07:09:38 AM »
A pulse detonation nuclear-drive was concieved of a while back, purely in abstract, of course. The theory was based on the concept of setting off progressively larger nukes behind a very substantial blast plate at a rate of several per second. I think is was called the Dedalus Engine, but am not certain. The thrust would come from the radiation emitted by the blasts and not the actual blast, since there would be none in space, and so the accleration would be mild, but almost limitless in terms of a top speed. Seems like an interesting idea, given their ability to safely shield the ship and crew from nuclear blasts with unheard-of yields. It's doubtful this idea will come to pass, however, as it's a bit overly dramatic and will probably be eclipsed by something more practical sooner or later. Solar sails function under the same basic principal, but without an internal fuel-source, would lose energy as distance to the sun increases.

PS: What's IIRC stand for?
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2004, 08:28:50 AM »
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No, IIRC the US were among the first to stop atmospheric testing, and you have plenty of useless dessert to test on. You get an A for that.


The treaty prohibiting atmospheric, underwater and space nuclear tests was signed in 1963. However, China didn't join it for a long time. I remember that they had an atmospheric thermonuclear test in 1982, the radioactive cloud crossed the Soviet border and caused a lot of trouble in Far East.

BTW, USSR was the first country to ban nuclear tests completely in 1984. US didn't join the ban, and later we had a period when some tests were performed.

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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2004, 08:29:49 AM »
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If I remember correctly.

Solar sails or magnetic sails are a good choice for deep space missions, but the problem is getting a large reflective surface up there and deploy it without tearing it.

Micrometeorites have to be taken into account. A large enough sail would be surely hit by one or more.

On the subject of nuclear engines, you could very well use gas to provide a platform on which the explosion would generate thrust.

Daniel