Author Topic: Is this Rantisi guy for real? (Read 1308 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2004, 09:39:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
As is the case with many words describing specific groups of people, it depends entirely on the context and tone. When somebody says 'Yeah, that's just typical Yankee logic'--although a very mild statement by any measure, it nevertheless implies a belittling slant. "Go to hell Yankee' would be a more extreme example of using the term to focus your anger/hatred at a specific group of people.

Personally, when it's unbiased and without the F word preceeding it, or some sort of razzing comment after it, I don't take offense. Some Brit could call me a Yank or Yankee and I'd be indifferent. It's just a familiar term for an American, despite whatever history it may have.

Of course opinions differ. Some, I think, would consider it an insult in any context, especially if the statement has anything to do with baseball.

Will somebody tell me wtf YMMV is?

Right. Okay...so Wetback is okay.
Check.
Yankee is okay.
Check.
Redneck is okay.
Check.
Raghead is not okay...
er, check? Why?

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #31 on:** March 29, 2004, 09:48:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Right. Okay...so Wetback is okay.
Check.
Yankee is okay.
Check.
Redneck is okay.
Check.
Raghead is not okay...
er, check? Why?

Actually, Rip, in some cases, they're all okay... For example, is it bad for a person to self-apply the term redneck? Or for two buddies calling each other rednecks... Same goes for Wetback and, as demonstrated liberally by the Hip-Hop industry, the 'N' word. Whether you or I think it's okay or not is irrelevant. Only the opinion of the guy being called whatever he's being called can decide that. Chances are, most persians will not like being called Raghead by a non persian, just like most Mexicans will not appreciate wetback from a non-mexican. It's a double standard that we all have to live with, because there's a derogatory/colloquial term for every group of people. Quite often, people outside the group to which the term applies will step in and attack its use as racist... I'm not sure how to handle this. On the one side, it's none of their business, on the other side, they may just be sympathizing with somebody they see as being verbally assaulted. These situations generally just lead to more name-calling.

So, we're back to square one. There is no yes or no answer, I believe.

If you don't like being called a Yank, and somebody who knows that you don't does it anyway, then you can consider it disrespectful.

Can you tell me what YMMV means, now?

Kanth · « **Reply #32 on:** March 29, 2004, 10:07:30 PM »

Your Milage May Vary.

Capt. Pork · « **Reply #33 on:** March 29, 2004, 10:22:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Kanth
Your Milage May Vary.

Thank you Kanth.

midnight Target · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2004, 12:13:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Is the term "Yankee" racist? Just wondering...

I don't think so Rip. Unless you've heard of a baseball team called the ragheads?

Thrawn · « **Reply #35 on:** March 30, 2004, 01:16:54 AM »

Is it because some "Yankees" wear the name with pride? That they are "in" on the joke?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #36 on:** March 30, 2004, 01:17:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Is it because some "Yankees" wear the name with pride? That they are "in" on the joke?

You mean like the following?

Wazzzuppp my nigga!!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #37 on:** March 30, 2004, 01:20:13 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
I don't think so Rip. Unless you've heard of a baseball team called the ragheads?

How bout the Redskins? Braves? Indians? Just because there are sportsteams doesnt mean somemebody cant at some point get offended.

Thrawn · « **Reply #38 on:** March 30, 2004, 01:48:55 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You mean like the following?

Wazzzuppp my nigga!!

...fo' shizzle.

But it would be context driven.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #39 on:** March 30, 2004, 01:52:00 AM »

What if a southerner said something like, "You damned Yankee POS!!!"

Is that a culturaly insensiteve epithet?

LAWCobra · « **Reply #40 on:** March 30, 2004, 02:03:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
What do you think?

Re educate those that want to learn.
help them build there countries so they can be proud.

And for those who hate and creat terror.
Well I say send them to Hell.

Thrawn · « **Reply #41 on:** March 30, 2004, 02:03:58 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
What if a southerner said something like, "You damned Yankee POS!!!"

Is that a culturaly insensiteve epithet?

What do you think?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #42 on:** March 30, 2004, 02:14:16 AM »

It could be percived that way. What do you think?

lazs2 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 30, 2004, 08:47:52 AM »

yankee and redneck and honky are vile and bigoted terms and the only people who should be allowed to use it are white people.

as in two white people saying 'hey honkey... whaa up?" Anyone else saying it should of course be arrested for a hate crime.

lazs

Ripsnort · « **Reply #44 on:** March 30, 2004, 08:59:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Is it because some "Yankees" wear the name with pride? That they are "in" on the joke?

Redskins?
Ragheads?

Whats the difference. Please explain.

Bottom line: If Wetback, Redskin is not racist, then neither is raghead by your (Your as in "collective" from this BBS ) logic.

Back is wet from crossing Rio Grande.

Skin is red due to color.

Head has what appears to be a rag on it.