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Offline Vulcan

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« on: March 30, 2004, 04:36:13 PM »
The UN Greenies imaginations are getting the better of them, you wonder what other reports are utter BS:


'Dead zones' off NZ coast mystery
31 March 2004  
By MATT O'SULLIVAN

Marine areas starved of oxygen and labelled "dead zones" are appearing off New Zealand's coast, United Nations scientists warn.


The claim is made in the UN Environment Programme's Global Environment Outlook Year Book 2003, which says the zones have recently been appearing off New Zealand, southeast Australia, Japan, China and South America.

But New Zealand experts say they are mystified by the report and question where the UN agency got its information.

Dead zones in the seas and oceans are caused by an excess of nutrients – mainly nitrogen – from agricultural fertilisers, vehicle and factory emissions and wastes.

Low levels of oxygen in the water make it difficult for fish, oysters and other marine creatures to survive.

Dr Janet Grieve, a biological oceanographer with the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, said she was not aware of any oxygen-starved zones off New Zealand that would fall into the "shock-horror" category, and believed the report was somewhat misleading.

The Fisheries Ministry says New Zealand's fish stocks are in a healthy shape and are not threatened by oxygen-starved zones. "It would be an enormous concern if the waters around New Zealand were called a dead zone," a spokeswoman said. "We do not consider this a dead zone."

Occasionally, fish were killed by algae blooms that remained for several weeks but nothing like that outlined by the UN agency, she said.

In their report, UN scientists identified nearly 150 oxygen-starved zones around the world, which they say pose major threats to fish stocks.

They did not give details of where New Zealand's "dead zones" were.

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2004, 04:56:25 PM »
DOWN with agricultural fertilisers, vehicle and factory emissions and wastes!

When are the greenies going to present a solution along with the 'alarm?'

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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2004, 04:59:06 PM »
Gawdamned tree huggers .
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2004, 05:27:30 PM »
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Gawdamned tree huggers .


Seriously - treehuggers at NASA.

Look at the stuff they're saying:

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The temperature record of the past hundred years does show a warming trend, by approximately 0.5 degrees C


Well hell, then by the year 9,000 we'll be plain old on fire.

I dont see much in that article besides "We dont have any faith in our own predictions because we're not quite sure what we're doing in the first place."

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2004, 05:33:29 PM »
Tin foil hats anyone?

I read on some consperiacy page that the hole in Ozone layer was "discovered, by Nasa right before their budget was going to be cut by a huge margin.

Result, no budget cut so they could study it!

Anyone else hear that one?

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2004, 05:35:25 PM »
the only thing I can say is that our snow has, for the most part,
melted earlier and earlier each year.

global warming?  
just a phase?
imagination?

I dunno'
but it sucks that ski season ends so early now days.
And our rivers damn-near dry up in the summer.. actually last summer upstream turned into 'puddles', stranding / killing fish.
Wells gone dry, etc.

it bites IMO and I'm stuck drinking more and more beer just to stay cool...

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...   it must be a plot of some kind and by the time I finish this six-pack I should be able to tell ya what exactly...

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2004, 07:06:57 PM »
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Well hell, then by the year 9,000 we'll be plain old on fire.


The biospheres can only exist withing a relatively narrow temperature range.

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2004, 07:13:26 PM »
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The biospheres can only exist withing a relatively narrow temperature range.


You are probably wasting your time with these knuckleheads.

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2004, 07:25:41 PM »
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You are probably wasting your time with these knuckleheads.


I love retorts like these.  Totally devoid of any substance.  ;)

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2004, 07:26:37 PM »
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The biospheres can only exist withing a relatively narrow temperature range.


That range being...?

The consequences being...?

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2004, 07:50:29 PM »
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I love retorts like these.  Totally devoid of any substance.  ;)


like the rest of the tripe in this thread?  Im not here to enlighten wingnuts.  You are going to believe what Rush tells you to anyway.

on edit - maybe Im not being fair to you Saurdauker, b/c we surely did get off on the wrong foot.  I would be happy to discuss this issue with you, just let me know if that is what you really want to do.  Leave the propaganda at home,
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2004, 12:21:57 AM »
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That range being...?

The consequences being...?


10 degrees one way or another would kill almost all life on the planet.

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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2004, 12:34:38 AM »
John Ringos take on it......http://www.johnringo.com/rglobal.htm

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2004, 05:04:45 PM »
I am afraid that the "tree huggers" already have pointed out some ways to slow global warming, but alas, it does not go too well together with the modern consumption world of us westeners.
As there has been a constant argument about whether the large oil consumption will or won't cause global warming, the predictions in that direction have come true. The globe IS warming. 0.5 degrees IS also quite a bit.
I live in a Northern country with glaciers all around. Already in the 20 years or so that I have been watching and photographing them, they have retreated.
Being involved into farming I can also confirm that the air is definately warmer. Crops can now be grown that could not be 20 years ago because of the cold. The flip side is fungis and insects entering the country, who did not exist 20 years ago.
Rainfall has also increased considerably.
Sad as it is, global warming is a fact, and we don't need so much more of it before any fool will realize.....
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2004, 05:16:59 PM »
Global Warming is a fact...

You really notice if you live in a country up in the north.

Here in Sweden the Winters are getting milder and shorter, the summers are way more hot then they used to be etc...
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