Author Topic: OPEC to cut production again, April 1st. (Read 656 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2004, 12:33:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
The overall prices on goods wont go up that much. It will affect people who drive poor mpg cars more then anything. BTW kerry is calling for opening up the oil reserves for the summer while bush is sitting on it. So yes, if kerry was in charge oil prices would go that high.

The poor people are affected drastically. They can't usually afford the latest and greatest in MPG, so what happens? Gas and Run's go up, like they have been here.

Would you really want your reserves drained to reduce your price of gas, during the time of war? I would not. I would probably not add anymore to it until prices adjust, but I wouldn't take all the reserve out. That makes us a very vulnerable nation.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2004, 12:36:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad

OK, I guess they think over $77K is rich. That's where the plans seem to start coming together.

Wait til ol' Froggy isn't living off Mom and Dad's college money, and needs to go out and buy a house, pay a mortgage. He'll find out fast (if he has a family to support) that $77,000 doesn't go very far.

Staga · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2004, 12:38:45 PM »

LOL are you saying OPEC should not cut the production 'cause poor americans will suffer mostly?
Again; it's busines, not a welfare project.
If you can't afford then don't buy it.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2004, 12:41:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
LOL are you saying OPEC should not cut the production 'cause poor americans will suffer mostly?
Again; it's busines, not a welfare project.
If you can't afford then don't buy it.

No , I was answering to Frog. Most american's pay the extra, but don't change lifestyles. The poor cannot have that luxury.

Toad · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2004, 12:42:40 PM »

No pain, no gain.

Raise gas prices to $10 a gallon. Major serious pain.

Do you think that would turn our best, brightest and most hungry capitalists towards alternative energy research/production in a big way?

When cars run on the "Back to the Future" converter and we can throw orange peels in there, would that be a major gain?

It's going to happen someday. The planet will eventually run out of oil. Why not do it now?

The OPEC folks are having another one of their innings. However they may finally push the switch on alternative energy.

Then, he who laughs last may well laugh best.

It is capitalism. Let's get off the bench and into the game.

LAWCobra · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2004, 12:43:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
What? Producing oil is a business and in capitalism the producer is free to determine the price he wants to get from his product.
Consumer has several choices: Pay the price, search for alternative product, cut down your usage, quit using the product or try to negotiate a price cut.

Producing oil is not a welfare project;If you can't afford to buy gas buy a bicycle.

Im talking bout being held hostage by these opec arse clowns like we were back in the 70s.
you remeber that chit?

If they are doing this to try and infuince the election in nov.
Then yeah I say butter em open up our reserves and really go after hydrogen
powerd cars.

But in the mean time we should kick there butts just on principles.

Where do you think they got all the pipelines?
All that ifrastructure all the technology for pulling that crude out of the earth?

LOL watermelon untill we built it for them they where ingnorant goat hearders for the most part.

So they aint got no buisness biting the hand that feeds them.

Staga · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2004, 01:17:09 PM »

Fool Me Once, Shame On You, Fool Me Twice...

Like LAWCobra said we got our first lessons in this game already in seventies.
Didn't you learn anything?

bigsky · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2004, 01:24:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Wait til ol' Froggy isn't living off Mom and Dad's college money, and needs to go out and buy a house, pay a mortgage. He'll find out fast (if he has a family to support) that $77,000 doesn't go very far.

not to hijack your post but thats $37 per hour 40 hours a week. i dont see how you couldn't live well on that kinda money. rough estimate of what i pay in taxes to govt. is @ 30% and i make a lot less than that. i dont see why anybody that makes 77k a year and paying @30% tax, same as me, should get a tax cut at all.

mosgood · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2004, 01:41:38 PM »

screw it..... I think its time the Iraqis payed for their own freedom with their oil. Sure, it was bogus how we got there, but now that we are... LET"S TAKE IT!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Seriously, I think it was BS what GWB said to get us to take Iraq.. but the reality is... we're there now .... and while the poor iraqis need there oil to rebuild their country now.... wtf does the U.S. have to spring for the bill... as usual. If not Oil.... we should get permanant military bases to scare the bejesus out of Iran with.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2004, 02:25:32 PM »

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Wait til ol' Froggy isn't living off Mom and Dad's college money, and needs to go out and buy a house, pay a mortgage. He'll find out fast (if he has a family to support) that $77,000 doesn't go very far.

I would not buy a house unless i saved the money for it. I do not believe in 'credit'. Either you have the cash or you do not.
77k goes pretty far if your not an ignorant spend monkey that cannot wear a condom, but like i said john kerry has stated that only the people makeing over 200k would have a tax increase.

Eagler · « **Reply #25 on:** March 31, 2004, 02:37:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
I would not buy a house unless i saved the money for it. I do not believe in 'credit'. Either you have the cash or you do not.
77k goes pretty far if your not an ignorant spend monkey that cannot wear a condom, but like i said john kerry has stated that only the people makeing over 200k would have a tax increase.

so mom and dad are gonna house and feed you until you save $150,000 to $200,000 for your home or are they gonna pay you that to move the hell out

that scale is crap - $36k combined income is middle class? maybe in bodunk not in any major city - including the southern ones

Sixpence · « **Reply #26 on:** March 31, 2004, 03:11:45 PM »

There are alternatives

But people just find excuses not to use them. The first diesel engine actually used biodiesel, but oil was cheaper and more abundant. Now I don't expect everyone to give up gas cars right away, but if we got the nation's diesel trucks to use it, it would cut our oil consumption.

-MZ- · « **Reply #27 on:** March 31, 2004, 03:35:38 PM »

Can someone explain why we let Iraq rejoin OPEC?

BGBMAW · « **Reply #28 on:** March 31, 2004, 03:38:00 PM »

"I would not buy a house unless i saved the money for it. I do not believe in 'credit'. Either you have the cash or you do not. "...sorry this was a quote form brainiac strk

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLO LOLOL

I take it he shares an apartment or lives at home..LMFAOOAOAOAOAO
morons at there best...lol what price house you saving for?..lolol

btw..FUQ MIDDLE EAST OIL!!..DONT BUY IT>>BUY NON MIDDLE EAST OIL!!!!!

and DRILL through the SKULLS of the godam reindeers if needed in ALAska....

Starve the middle east....let them DIE..unless they change there ways..

seems so easy...but the more i read..what the hell?!!..where can I not support Middle east oil?

http://www.ballew.org/madeusa/buyUSoil.htm

i have seen this many times but have read the opposite too..any ideas??

Staga · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2004, 03:41:32 PM »

Heh this is better than a friggin' zoo