700 dead

[lazs2]

so pongo... you wish that we had never invaded and that the sadman was still in power?

You feel that the U.S. is learning nothing about urban or mid east warfare by being there?

You feel that all the American soldiers that have died there have been wasted lives?

You feel that a "soverign power" like the sadmans has a right to exist and that he would never be a threat?

You feel that the example of U.S. resolve is worthless or... not worth 700 soldiers lives?    

You discount the thousands that the sadman and his sons would have tortured and killed in the same time period?

You have been shot at?   I may have been shot at more than you.  I don't like it.   I would not avoid doing things that needed to be done tho simply because I may get shot at.

lazs

[capt. apathy]

You feel that the example of U.S. resolve is worthless or... not worth 700 soldiers lives?

is this a show of resolve? really?
to me it's a show of our inability to distinguish targets (the terrorists where not iraqi, they where saudis based out of afganistan).
  it's a show of our hypocracy (we are suporting the UN resolution by ignoring the wishes of the UN? WTF is that?   or   we are getting rid of saddam because he is an evil tyrant, while our buddies are the saudi royal family, inspite of them being evil tyrants   or   we are attacking because of iraqs ties to the hijackers.  how many hyjackers wehre Iraqi, how many saudis?)

their lives where thrown away to increase proffits for a few.

this does not deminish the honor in which they have served, they've done their job, and from all reports our soldiers are doing their jobs and doing them well.  the fault isn't with the military.  the fault is with the president who sent them into this situation.

[lazs2]

resolve?  sure.   imagine what is going through the heads of people who would back terrorists.  

I'm happy with the way things came out.  We should be thinking of a way to get out now tho and let the people run their own country.   I have no doubt that is what is being done.

pongos big crocadile tears simply are offensive to me.

lazs

[capt. apathy]

I iamine they figure they are good to go.  they attack us and we attack iraq.

that and they are probably thinking about how easy it is going to be to talk you Iraqi kids to join them.  

imagine how easy it would be to talk people around here into fighting if a foriegn arm where ocupying our land.

[lazs2]

don't be so glum captain... I figure it all worked out pretty well.   Most people probly figure the U.S. will have the resolve to do what is in it's best interest.

I still claim crocadile tears on the liberals.   If you put lives saved against lives lost it's all worked out pretty well.   Lot's of really bad guys don't exist anymore.  Iraq may or may not get a good government out of the deal but they sure got rid of a really bad one.

lazs

[Shuckins]

Battle of the Somme...day one...60,000 British casualties.

Battle of Iwo Jima...day one...2500 Marine casualties.

Iraq...year one...700 casualties (200 of them accidental)

Haliburton is but one of MANY companies, both foreign and domestic, which have contracts with the U.S. government to help rebuild Iraq.  Suggesting that Bush started a war to line his own pockets with money is a repugnant use of class warfare.

Let's keep things in perspective shall we.

Shuckins

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by Pongo
And is the 145000 combat troops.
The old trick is to hide the infantry with the cooks. If you count actual line troops and count the causalties sustained by just them you get interesting numbers. I bet the 145 000 is total troops Infantry is probably closer to 40,000 total. And I bet bet thier casualties account for 70% of the total.

wonder what frontline to combat troops US army runs to these days - was 7-1 in the40's and 50's, 15 -1 in Vietnam, does anyone know? I'm thinking at least 20-1.

In which case there's only about 8k-10k actual boots with bayonets on the ground which seems kind of hard to believe though.....

[capt. apathy]

Haliburton is but one of MANY companies, both foreign and domestic, which have contracts with the U.S. government to help rebuild Iraq. Suggesting that Bush started a war to line his own pockets with money is a repugnant use of class warfare.

Haliburton is the prime contractor,  most of the others get their checks through Haliburton.

I am sugesting that Bush started the war to line, if not his own , then the pockets of his associates, who will take care of him later.

and yes, it is repugnant, and class warfare.

[Eagler]

wonder how many firemen and policemen across this country have died doing their duty during the same time period? I don't see anyone keeping a tally on that number. Maybe because it's part of their job description also ...

[Eagler]

Originally posted by capt. apathy
Haliburton is the prime contractor,  most of the others get their checks through Haliburton.

I am sugesting that Bush started the war to line, if not his own , then the pockets of his associates, who will take care of him later.

and yes, it is repugnant, and class warfare.

this is so retarded it has to be a troll