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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2004, 09:44:02 AM »
I made the offer, not Skuzzy.  And I think a month's time for a 5-10 minute test with me is more than fair.  To imply that it's not worth it is disingenuous.

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2004, 03:05:10 PM »
heheheh i thought 1 month was pretty ballsy
                  He didnt have to do that even

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2004, 03:09:32 AM »
The 109G10 can be stalled so that it goes into unrecoverable stall falling tail first to the ground.

Any aircraft can be pulled wings level into a stall where you can only just keep from stalling, and with a slight pull from a stick get it stalling from side to side in rapid succession as if there were no torque at all. I'd expect an aircraft to force itself to the opposite side of its propellor rotation.

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2004, 03:53:57 AM »
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The 109G10 can be stalled so that it goes into unrecoverable stall falling tail first to the ground.

Any aircraft can be pulled wings level into a stall where you can only just keep from stalling, and with a slight pull from a stick get it stalling from side to side in rapid succession as if there were no torque at all. I'd expect an aircraft to force itself to the opposite side of its propellor rotation.

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Agreed. I'm sure the flightmodel will be looked at before the final release...

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2004, 06:47:49 PM »
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I made the offer, not Skuzzy. And I think a month's time for a 5-10 minute test with me is more than fair. To imply that it's not worth it is disingenuous.


Sorry Pyro :D


This was supposed to be a joke not to be taken seriousely.  sorry.

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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2004, 12:52:29 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2004, 08:25:35 AM »
Still waiting for a film.

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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2004, 08:48:53 AM »
hitech,

Schedule has been bad lately. Tonight We are getting together and going to test this out. You should have film by tomorrow AM. I am setting up a series of runs and try to be as objective about this as possible.  Thanks for listening.

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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2004, 09:59:27 AM »
Still waiting for a film.

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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2004, 10:13:09 AM »
Just curious... this diving for closer to get close enough for a shot (assuming both planes start at same alt) is a net lag thing?

I know about converting alt to speed, but it seems you're talking about something different - i.e., would the tactic you described be available in the real world?

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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2004, 10:21:12 AM »
Nothing to do with lag. 2 aircraft = speed, trailer dives around 1000 feet to pick up speed. Closes with front aircraft, but is below, when in range pull nose up and take shot, the aircraft will start droping back again as it climbing.


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« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2004, 06:02:21 PM »
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I just wanted to say that.  :aok


What do you love? The LACK of stalling?

I just tried at least 10 times to stall a P-51D.. Went vertical, straight up to <60MPH... No stall horn... nose just slowly lowered until it went below horizontal then I got airspeed back and kept going.

Never lost control of the aircraft.. I tried and tired.. it won't stall or spin

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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2004, 06:13:24 PM »
Midnight, you sure you didn't have the stall limiter on?
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« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2004, 06:20:05 PM »
Hitech, you're not going to get that film. He can't replicate what is obviously an error of perception combined with ignorance of E management and calculating/predicting intercepts.
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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2004, 07:25:53 PM »
"Nothing to do with lag. 2 aircraft = speed, trailer dives around 1000 feet to pick up speed. Closes with front aircraft, but is below, when in range pull nose up and take shot, the aircraft will start droping back again as it climbing. "

I get it now. I was thinking it was an energy thing. I see now its an geometry thing. Its sort of like splitting the distance between the horizontal and vertical planes. Plane A is 1000 yards behind plane B and coalt. Plane A dives and is 500 yards below and 500 yards behind plane B. By splitting the distance between the horrizontal and vertical, plane A has a shot opportunity of 500 yards. As he approaches co alt the distance will get longer again as the distance returns to one plane (ie horizontal plane). Got it ! :aok

Seems though, the faster the planes are, the less attractive this option would be as over certain speeds, a lot of E would be wasted and negate the advantage of putting the distance in 2 geometric planes.
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