Author Topic: deadliest rifleman? (Read 1982 times)

Leslie · « **Reply #60 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:22:37 PM »

MT, I think you're an bellybutton and that's all there is to it.

Les

midnight Target · « **Reply #61 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:27:56 PM »

Okee Doke.

Thanks for sharing.

Leslie · « **Reply #62 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:32:47 PM »

You're welcome. Scumbag:D

Les

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #63 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:34:20 PM »

MT
Don't feel bad, I like ya!

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Did I miss the racism part in this thread? Or is having a discusion about a guy shooting American Indians that attacked him racist now?

loser · « **Reply #64 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:41:54 PM »

Sorry Goat, maybe im a little too sensitive. I just dont like hearing about "Indians"(I dont like that word) being refered to as "cannon fodder." (no one said that, but please.)

I also am pretty sure what Lesie was trying to type when it came up as "******"

I am ashamed enough what happened in my country to native people, let alone what happened in the South.

Goat were they really attacking? Or were they defending.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #65 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:57:46 PM »

Loser
No doubt what we did to the indians was bad, but they had their moments as well as I understand it.

No sense getting upset about this in anycase since we are not sure if it is true and all.

I think over all the US had made up for her bad deeds in good ones.

Leslie · « **Reply #66 on:** April 02, 2004, 02:30:19 PM »

My Dad had some experiences with racism when he was a boy of 10 years old. This was back in the 30s on a rural country road, when his friends ambushed two Negro boys and threw potatos at them. Now that may sound funny to you, but my dad at the time was very concerned because he figured the other boys were trying to hurt the nigs, trying to hurt them bad with potatos, which were hard as rocks and could have hurt bad. I think he started walking away and the other boys went along with him. I asked him if those boys would have killed, and he said yes he thought they would if they could. Those were extremely violent and racist boys. Not like any we see today.

This was back in 1917 or so.

Les

midnight Target · « **Reply #67 on:** April 02, 2004, 02:36:40 PM »

Should I continue to try and fugure out where I went wrong in our relationship Leslie? I mean, You've called me an bellybutton and a Scumbag, and Offensive. I wonder why?

I don't recall once calling you anything derogatory or mentioning that Leslie is a girly name.

Leslie · « **Reply #68 on:** April 02, 2004, 03:05:43 PM »

I think you're a **** disturber MT, with the religion thread "Debunking Christianity." You should be ashamed of yourself, and maybe me too, for getting upset about it. No one benefits from it, so leave it here and please don't do it again.

Now you know.

Calling you a scumbag was entirely out of line. I don't think you're a scumbag.

And Leslie is not a girly name.

Les

BlkKnit · « **Reply #69 on:** April 02, 2004, 06:13:26 PM »

hmmm....Leslie, you seem to be quite ate up

But I think i see your view, its just too far off line with most of this thread for me to understand why you are pointedly attacking MT

Those guys were ATTACKED and defended themselves. This was war, in the minds of both sides. We're not talkin about a Sand Creek massacre here. It was a battle that went wrong for the home team.

Native Americans deserve respect, Blacks deserve respect, everyone else too. Hugging that tree will not help them. I love the history of that period, and I cheer that the outnumbered white guys beat off the attack. I also cheer that in the N.A.'s eventually threw them out. Red Clouds war has got to be one of the most interesting stories of that time, and both sides killed people on the other side.

As for the South .....yes, issues there are regrettable. Trying to bury those issues under an umbrella of silence will not help anyone. There are plenty of things from our past to be ashamed of...but there are also plenty to be proud of. And its not a matter of race or culture....its OUR history, every one of us.

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Shuckins · « **Reply #70 on:** April 02, 2004, 06:48:07 PM »

MT may be a left-leaning, knee-jerk liberal...but he's OUR left-leaning, knee-jerk liberal.

His jabs at our expense are well-written, lucid, and often funny.

So stuff it Les.

Shuckins

-tronski- · « **Reply #71 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:13:02 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Look up Rorkes Drift battle, something like is possible given western technoligical and tactical superiority combined with fixed defenses.

Zulu Impi's were excellent fighting formations as demonstrated with the destruction of the british at Isandlwana.

But obviously the British armies technological/logistical advantage put paid to the Zulu's fighting ability in the long run.

Tronsky

hyena426 · « **Reply #72 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:36:15 PM »

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They want casinos and money. Did you know here in Alabama, an Indian doesn't need a hunting or fishing license?

full blooded indians can hunt and fish any state they live in,, without any license and any time of year,,i dont think thats a bad price for taking there country from them

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Sorry Goat, maybe im a little too sensitive. I just dont like hearing about "Indians"(I dont like that word) being refered to as "cannon fodder."

every man was cannon fodder back in those days,,doesnt matter what race you was,,look at pickets charge,,eeeeek,,talk about guys being cannon fodder<~~part indian my self,,only a quarter Cherokee,,my granny was full,,but i didnt see anything really offensive in this thread,{besides a few peoples remarks and attacks},just people talking about a battle,,and a very cool one indeed,,25 people able to hold them off is impressive,,lots of wild battles in the west,,impressive and repulsive ones on each side

Torque · « **Reply #73 on:** April 02, 2004, 09:01:42 PM »

Sometimes you don't need weapons.

Tecumseh and a few hundred of his Shawnee warriors with some face paint ,war cries and running in and out of the bush alot, they scared General Hull and his garrison of two thousand men into surrendering at Fort Detroit in 1812.

top that!

lazs2 · « **Reply #74 on:** April 03, 2004, 09:10:54 AM »

well... war is war. I don't care who is attacking you and trying to kill main and torture you... it is best to kill as many of them as possible.

The story would be the same to me if it were attacking Germans in WWII or japs...

Still... I think a lot of people have a PC kneejerk reaction when anything that doesn't portray the indians as noble, good and brave and non polluting is mentioned. The indians slaughrtered each other and tortured people... they polluted the land and then left when they used it up... if it weren't for the fact that they weren't advanced enough to keep thier birth rate up they woulda polluted the whole country given time.

I didn't realize their were so many indians on this BB tho... you all out to get together and build a casino... or hire an Itallian guy to do it for you.

Most of the land "taken" from the indians was bought... yep.. maybe the person selling it didn't have the right to do so but it was bought. The indians regularly took each others land by force... we just did a better job. the indians slaughtered families in their "villages" we just did a better job. The indians trapped out and hunted out areas... we just did it more quickly because of greater numbers and better tools.

but... I guess the History Channel was full of it... Wouldn't be the first time. Wonder how many of the ATTACKERS he did kill tho?

lazs