Author Topic: 190a8 the true butcher bird :) (Read 777 times)

hazed- · « **on:** May 30, 2001, 11:50:00 PM »

just looking at my stats in the 190a8 after i had a great sortie and killed 4 bombers hitting our city and HQ (hehe 1 was an off mapper).
and i was very pleased with my score

K/d against all bombers this tour?

30-1

plane K/D vs 190a8
arado...1 / 0
lanc....8 / 0
b17.....4 / 0
b26....10 / 1
ju88....2 / 0
tbm.....1 / 0
il2.....4 / 0

not bad eh?

Ive been using rockets to try to kill them and ive had near misses but its sooo hard i havent manged a kill with one in the air

I dont approach from the 6oc unless i feel i have surprise on my side.Slashing attacks is the way to go

seems to work

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Hazed
9./JG54

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Hangtime · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2001, 12:59:00 AM »

Not half bad at all Hazed. WTG!

How you doin in that thing against ponies?

Hang

Animal · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2001, 01:25:00 AM »

cc, wtg hazed.
Ive always respected a8 pilots.
Some people just choose to fly the D9 and G10 and STILL have the guts to whine and blame something when they lose.
Yet (most) a8 flyers just shut up when they lose, roll again, and keep trying.

It is also a mean HO machine.

Hans · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2001, 01:47:00 AM »

Its not a bad plane, though isn't the -A5 the better fighter? From the web page charts here the older A5 is faster and climbs better.

I think the later A8 has armor plating and and better armed, more for bomber hunting than for dogfighting fighters.

Hans.

Fishu · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2001, 02:02:00 AM »

Hans,

During last year when I did last times fly online, I did favor A8 over A5 for some reason.
I felt more like being at home in A8, better control feel.
Probably because of my better experience with A8 compared to A5 (*huge* difference in experience)

Good thing in A8 is that it can fly fairly easy without wingtip, unlike 109s.
I got one screenshot from times when I were making my streak in A8, flamin B17 and my focke without wingtip and drifting right at another B-17's guns. (avoided it though)
...of course nothing wins hogs in flying without a wingtip.

Creamo · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2001, 03:03:00 AM »

The A8 is my favorite AH plane.

It is very easy to fly, takes a load of punishment, and hits extremely hard with a seemingly endless supply of cannon.

It doesn't get used as much as it could because of the long climb times. I have found however, like the IL2, that if you get caught slow in a low turn fight, you can often get a guy to auger, or over shoot.

I always carry the rockets as well to shoot at bombers, but mostly chutes. They don't seem to work to well though, is that a bug maybe, or is it just hard to range them?

Oh, and it's a HO'ing beast.

The 190A8 is a all around great stable plane and a good begginer aircraft to learn boom and zoom for sure.

hazed- · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2001, 08:43:00 AM »

190a8 good beginners plane? i dont quite think its as easy to fly as the spit,niki,p51,ki,etc.

hangtime

p51s have always been a problem for the a8

faster and more manouverable it seems the only advantage i can get over them is a fast dive and rolling scissors

typhoons seem a problem too.109g10s are a nightmare for 190a8s but as this wouldnt have happened in the war i dont worry about them so much.

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Hazed
9./JG54

Ripsnort · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2001, 08:53:00 AM »

(Pats back) Lifetime for me in AH is 4.5 K/D ratio for the B-Bird...flew it yesterday, love her!

Great run ya got their Hazed!

hblair · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2001, 09:00:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Creamo:
The A8 is my favorite AH plane.

It is very easy to fly, takes a load of punishment, and hits extremely hard with a seemingly endless supply of cannon.

It doesn't get used as much as it could because of the long climb times. I have found however, like the IL2, that if you get caught slow in a low turn fight, you can often get a guy to auger, or over shoot.

I always carry the rockets as well to shoot at bombers, but mostly chutes. They don't seem to work to well though, is that a bug maybe, or is it just hard to range them?

Oh, and it's a HO'ing beast.

The 190A8 is a all around great stable plane and a good begginer aircraft to learn boom and zoom for sure.

Nice observations creamo. I've also found that carrying the 500kg bomb around in dogfights makes for a more challenging, and therefore enjoyable flight simm experience.

hblair · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2001, 09:04:00 AM »

Also, to make up for the ease of the 190A8, I have found that turning off my monitor in a dogfight makes for a real challenge, but you must use "The force" to compensate for not being able to see anything, although the 30 mils will make up for this, just spray em around everywhere, turn on your monitor, and land.

Easy 10 kill sortie, right creamo?

Creamo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2001, 09:31:00 AM »

There is hardly a more stable plane in AH, and one as deadly. It's like a LW F4UC really, but doesn't turn well, so just drive it accordingly.

If a new guy wants to learn BnZ and have a powerful plane, I can't see why not to use it. A P51 is way more vulnerable to stall and "twitchy" behavior, and takes allot of on target gun time, which I can't deal with. Yet someone would be quick to point out thats a acceptable plane for anyone to fly. I find it terrible, but that's personal taste I guess.

The 190A8 rolls like all hell, and you can HO your way out of a bad situation and run.

Being facetious alluding to the difficulty of the plane by goofing you should shut off your monitor and carry a bomb is just more LW propaganda.

It's easy to fly as any plane regarding patient BnZ tactics, but have many more advantages then alot of planes, period. It just has this BS rep through these boards and the guys that fly it, as if they are superior pilots. The FM are great, but all planes in AH are not modeled "complex" as for as systems and operation... hello?

It's one of the few planes I have a 1/1 kill ratio and believe me, that's good in my case.

Fishu · « **Reply #11 on:** May 31, 2001, 09:32:00 AM »

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Originally posted by hazed-:
190a8 good beginners plane? i dont quite think its as easy to fly as the spit,niki,p51,ki,etc.

Hehe, when I got WarBirds first time in my hands, FW190A8 was my choice when I were flying off-line first times and preferred it

Seems like few years after I still liked it enough to fight alot with it.

Btw. when uncle tried AH, he preferred Me109 over the spitfire, because it was easier to control and not so slippery.

hazed- · « **Reply #12 on:** May 31, 2001, 12:26:00 PM »

Rip this is only vrs buffs not all k/ds

i get a roughly 2/1 kd in it overall maybe little less but then again i rarely paly it safe and rtb i usually reverse into the enemy rather than run all the way home.As soon as people break off my 6 i usually turn on them and usually die hehe.

creamos is talking crap if you ask me.I checked his stats and he flies nikis,spits,f4c's,la7s,typhoons and although flown less in most cases like typhoon la7 he has better k/d ratio in almost every other plane( eg F4c 28 kills 14 deaths and 190a8 23 kills 22 deaths). your stats dont back your statements creamo.

I must admit i flew the niki beginning of this tour as a protest with wilbuz and others and it wasnt the uber plane i thought t was for someone who doesnt fly it much like me but if i flew it the entire tour im sure it would show itself to be super e retentive.your stats on the niki seem strange creamo.You been ramming stuff kamakazi style?

32 buff kills to 1 death since this post

ooh i love killing buffs

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Hazed
9./JG54

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minus · « **Reply #13 on:** May 31, 2001, 12:36:00 PM »

hehe check my stats in 190A8 not a perfect becose many time i try to fight a niki s on deck but contra buffs i prefer A8

Ripsnort · « **Reply #14 on:** May 31, 2001, 01:26:00 PM »

Creamo's got a lure in the water, Hazed, ignore him...

He does have a point about the guns, usually if the fight deteriotes to the ground, the A8 does have the nice ability to HO and/or snap shots in a jam, other than that, it sucks in climb rate, it sucks in turning ability, it sucks (literally) in fuel consumption, and if you fly this plane half-way decent, chances are you'll fly any other B and Z aircraft with skill.