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Offline wrag

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2004, 08:16:47 PM »
PC

Ugh.   A phrase cooked up by someone and used by the media to label people as nonPC and thus bring ridicule, etc upon them.  Many seem to now associate nonPC with rednecks etc....

IMHO PC is far too much like Komrade you will do and think our way or else stuff, far too much like socializm or communist propaganda, or some dictater telling me what to do and think.

PC IMHO has nothing to do with politness.  PC is more of a control and create an environment of social fear thing.

Remember reading something about mostly YOUNG PEOPLE seeming to think that please, and thank you, and sir or madam etc... were just mouthing tripe, but the writer felt that to ignore such niceties when dealing with society (others) was like throwing sand into delicate machinery that did not work very well at it's best.  And so was very foolish.  And there was a time when someone using such terms and phrases could expect a physically violent reaction all over their prettythang.  And many would stand by and watch and smile thinking the whole time this person had justly earned what they were recieving.

I try to always be polite to everyone, at least until they show me they have no intention of being polite towards me.  Even then I try to use care with what I say and still be somewhat polite in a rather cold and ... well.  But I have no intention of being PC, further I don't want to be PC, and finally I'm very proud of not being PC!

It is sad and regretable that so many feel safe in saying such words now.  But the law suites and all that comes with physical reactions anymore are not to be laughed at.

I've often thought some smart attorney would come up with an argument that the person that reacted with physical violence was just excerzising his 1st amendment right to free speach/freedom of expresion in a physical way or somethin like that.  Hey there is nothing anywhere in the constitution that relieves any of us for the responsiblity for our actions, words or deeds that I could find.  Further there used to be an argument that everyone/anyone had a breaking point and did not have to put up with certain things.  Some of the poli's have inserted stuff that virtually gives them a get outa jail free card though :(

oh well
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2004, 08:20:29 PM »
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Originally posted by SaburoS
It's ironically funny/sad that some that espouse the "Good old days of family values, etc" are the ones most complaining against being "politically correct."

Being 42 myself, I remember a time where I was taught to say:
Sir, Ma'am, Miss, etc.
Please. Thank you.
Was taught to be considerate of others.
Sorry, but even though it was accepted at the time, my family didn't use racial epithets as my sister and I would usually be a victim of the J** label because my mother is Japanese (She grew up in Tokyo and "lived" through the horror of the fire-bombing by the B-29s) and my father is white (served proudly in the US Navy for 28 years).

I have questions for those of you that feel a need to use racial epithets to get a point across:
1) Why?
2) Is this the sort of attitude and language you'd like to see our youth learn and mimic?
3) What on earth is wrong in being politically correct? You'd think it'd be a criminal act to see some responses!

I'm going to ask to please stop referring to other nationalities in such a derogatory way. It's unbecoming of civilized folk to talk/type that way.
Thank you.


STFU, ******.

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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2004, 08:22:45 PM »
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I am polite and respectful.  I am not PC.


I am polite and respectful to all ******s and *****s and sand ******s and ****s and ***s and *******s.

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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2004, 11:22:40 PM »
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I am polite and respectful to all ******s and *****s and sand ******s and ****s and ***s and *******s.


Exactly.

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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2004, 03:33:11 AM »
To be polite is one thing and to be PC is another to be polite is to be someone who would be regarded greatly by other to be PC is to disregard your self woth and to be really a hypocrite or as I call be hipocritically correct whichis something I despise, sort of what politicans do be payed for being dirty hipocrites.

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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2004, 10:02:10 AM »
uhhh.... if you say "miss" and maam to a lot of women it will be considered the height of insult.

I use racial and other terms all the time.   It is my way.   I believe that I do it in an amusing way and I spare no one.  I think that the people who want a PC world want a grey world...  

PC people are boring people... that is fine for them but it doesn't work for me.

lazs

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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2004, 10:18:48 AM »
My kids are mixed race, Vietnamese and WASP.

When my son was born my wife suggested, and my friends begged, that we name my first son Charles (it is my middle name).  I had to explain to the wife that "Charlie" probably wasn't the best idea for a half Vietnamese boy.  Of course my friends thought that would be hilarious.

Good thing none of us are very PC.;)
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2004, 11:34:14 AM »
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uhhh.... if you say "miss" and maam to a lot of women it will be considered the height of insult.

I use racial and other terms all the time.   It is my way.   I believe that I do it in an amusing way and I spare no one.  I think that the people who want a PC world want a grey world...  

PC people are boring people... that is fine for them but it doesn't work for me.

lazs


A guy in his late 50's I work with always calls the women we work with as love, and sweetheart (much to our general amusement), and it's usually only the younger ones who aren't happy being refered that way.
However if you're unhappy being refered by slang word, nickname, or some other title you find demeaning - I guess you do have a right especially in the work place to be refered by your proper name/title.

Saburo, australians in general use slang as an almost the official language. We shorten everything, or turn everything into slang (very much like british cockney) especially when refering to someone. Common usage may not make some things less insulting (the "J" word for example) but then we generally don't use them in a abusive fashion, and if we did...it's usually prefaced with the "F" word.

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2004, 12:23:00 PM »
Lol Curval.  Good call.  :)

Tronski, what's the J word?  Jack ***?

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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2004, 02:22:31 PM »
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My kids are mixed race, Vietnamese and WASP.

When my son was born my wife suggested, and my friends begged, that we name my first son Charles (it is my middle name).  I had to explain to the wife that "Charlie" probably wasn't the best idea for a half Vietnamese boy.  Of course my friends thought that would be hilarious.

Good thing none of us are very PC.;)


LOL
You should have named him Victor Charles.  :D

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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2004, 02:39:09 PM »
im all for being polite...its just a bit to far to start calling a garbage man a "waste disposal engineer" or a dung scooper a "extretment removal technician"

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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2004, 02:45:02 PM »
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My kids are mixed race, Vietnamese and WASP.

When my son was born my wife suggested, and my friends begged, that we name my first son Charles (it is my middle name).  I had to explain to the wife that "Charlie" probably wasn't the best idea for a half Vietnamese boy.  Of course my friends thought that would be hilarious.

Good thing none of us are very PC.;)


LOL great story!!!

BTW is that a pic of you in the avatar?

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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2004, 02:47:55 PM »
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LOL great story!!!

BTW is that a pic of you in the avatar?




Curval, in all his Bermudan(?) glory.

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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2004, 05:02:38 PM »
Pimp.

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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2004, 05:03:48 PM »
Yo he gotz spinnaz on da scoota yo!