Author Topic: HT, PLEASE, put an HA up (Read 1955 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** May 31, 2001, 02:40:00 PM »

With ya Buhdman, I'm a proponent of having a six view due to the real life limitations of sitting behind a flat-2D monitor. IMO, folks who don't want the true six view are the ones who'll sit up at 35k ready to exploit someones weak SA, but hey, no different that we have today!

I personally like a mix of both gameplay allowances and historic realism...if you have too much of one or the other, you've cut your player base in half.

SirLoin · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2001, 02:44:00 PM »

People will leave but people will join too.Just give us rotating maps on reset and some early war planes and the "I quit" posts will stop..And a "Full Realism" arena would be a good step too..<Sir Loin of Beef>

whels1 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 31, 2001, 02:59:00 PM »

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Originally posted by R4M:

The MA sucks. I know its not a very good way to say it, but I'm sincere, It sucks. The immersion factor is nil, the A2A tactics used are most of the time just HO-and-run, the kill stealing...endless reasons.

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lol the arena has nothing to do with HO and run, its the skillless cant do ACM fighting
dweebs. map or plane set has nothing to do with it. no matter which u use, there will
always be HO dweebs cause thier lack of ACM skill allows them no other way to get kills.

whels

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** May 31, 2001, 03:01:00 PM »

For every person that leaves, I meet two new friends, lately!

R4M · « **Reply #19 on:** May 31, 2001, 03:04:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
For every person that leaves, I meet two new friends, lately!

but if you can convince the one who leaves, to stay, wont you do it?

Fariz · « **Reply #20 on:** May 31, 2001, 03:51:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
For every person that leaves, I meet two new friends, lately!

Russian proverb -- "Old friend value as two new".

I must say as 10 new

I am sad so many good pilots are leaving. I do not care about some though, and know that some will come back even after the most noisy leave.

One reason is true -- HTC has no competions right now, and soon it will change. But will it reduce AH players base? I doubt it.

Many AH players will play other would be sims, and some people will switch to AH to find here what they can not find in other games.

So the stronger competion will not kill AH -- it is most likely will drop its monthly fee -- which all of us will benefit from.

Fariz

HABICHT · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2001, 04:04:00 PM »

lack of historical setups was to 70& the
reason why me (an kirin i think) left AH.
i want an realistic ww2sim.
-> no radar
-> axis vs allieds
-> resticted views

but i understand the piont of HTC. a new customer want's an fast fight.
me not.

i don't understand , why you blame wb's rps and ww2 arena so much. its the best ww2 experience you can get.

wastel aka habicht

-ammo- · « **Reply #22 on:** May 31, 2001, 04:16:00 PM »

fellas, I cant see you paying your 30$ American if you are that unhappy. HTC does an outstanding job making this sim and it has the features that the majority of this community wants.

So if you are that unhappy then <S>, you are doing the right thing by deleting your account. Ram, you definately know where the "delete account" button is, maybe you will be next.

An HA would be a good idea I think, for a trial. I did enjoy the HA in WB's however it got frustrating with the lack of attendance. However restricted views is a silly idea, man thats what we had in WB's..it sucked! Why take a step backwards?

ammo

R4M · « **Reply #23 on:** May 31, 2001, 04:29:00 PM »

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Originally posted by -ammo-:
So if you are that unhappy then <S>, you are doing the right thing by deleting your account. Ram, you definately know where the "delete account" button is, maybe you will be next.

? who said I'm going?...I say that when WWIIOL hits the streets I'll get it and THAT month I wont fly AH (because I wont be able to afford it). Then we'll see.

For now I'm staying.

Hangtime · « **Reply #24 on:** May 31, 2001, 04:34:00 PM »

Yup.. I'd like to see a HA... and yup; we ain't got enuff planes yet to make it a daily thing... but dammit; they ARE working on it. Check out those two new terrains... the CM Corps is moving ahead, Ck 6's, etc.

Yup.. the MA can get stale.. yup, the FFA mentality in the MA vs the Strat Crowd can make things aggravating.. lordy; everywhere yah look anyone can find faults, but folks; everywhere you look you can find great stuff just sittin there fer yer edification..

Had an awsome cloud fight the other night.. the immersion was thrilling; the detail terrific, the outcome a shocker... I had a blast. Came away sayin to myself "Gawdamn what's to NOT like here?? that was AWSOME!"

Even Ram's mellowed out.. is this the same guy that was ranting like a madman last year?? WTG RAM.. we may not all agree with yer points, but yer styles improved.

Keep at it bud. <S!>

Hang

MrSiD · « **Reply #25 on:** May 31, 2001, 04:45:00 PM »

Fatty: when was the last time you went to a h2h arena?

At least in my timezone, there's always arena's up with teamplay and often also axis vs allied planesets for different countries.

Heck, there are even dedicated HA maps made by h2h players!

The only true limiting factor for immersion in h2h games is the 8-player limit. Added up with the fact that usually 2-3 of the players are newusers and the host is somewhere eating his lunch, it leaves about 4 active players on the arena.

Then it only needs a newdweeb901 to start vulching his own field with an osty to spoil it completely for all..
Mostly players are forced to play FFA untill enough pilots join the game so killshooter is rarely on.

H2h can never replace the real deal. I wish it could, but it just won't

-ammo- · « **Reply #26 on:** May 31, 2001, 04:47:00 PM »

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Originally posted by R4M:
? who said I'm going?...I say that when WWIIOL hits the streets I'll get it and THAT month I wont fly AH (because I wont be able to afford it). Then we'll see.

For now I'm staying.

well bud, hear you tell it AH has sooooo many problems that have constituted other folks leaving I can only assume since you recognise these same problems you will be right behind them. For certain you will be much happier without AH...

Fatty · « **Reply #27 on:** May 31, 2001, 04:57:00 PM »

MrSid, the fact that I don't play in H2H games and the fact I'm happy with the MA are not exclusive, they are inclusive. Were I itching for a HA I assure you I'd be there.

R4M · « **Reply #28 on:** May 31, 2001, 05:01:00 PM »

fact: I love online flight sims

Fact: AH is so far the only online flight sim worth paying.

Fact: AH, even though being a wonderful flight sim, does not (by far) fullfit what I would expect from a realistic flight simulator, thing that would be solved in a big part with an HA.

Fact: I stay here until there is something better, but that does not mean that I'm all that happy here, compared with I could be with an HA.

[This message has been edited by R4M (edited 05-31-2001).]

whels1 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 31, 2001, 05:20:00 PM »

HAs have been tried before in other sims with ALOT ALOT bigger player base, and they failed. u had the plane jumper who chose what side to fly for depending on what year the plane set was in. 2 side war was as much a gangbang as was a 3 sided 1.

poeple who claim they want realism, and say no Dar are fooling them selves, WW2 had dar
and gave more info then we have here. if u wan no dar in planes , ok whos gona pay$30+ a month to sit in the tower and tell everyone
where stuffs going on? oh u want a realistic
sim? how about u die, u have to cancle account, i didnt think so.
most the 1s whinning about wanting no dar are 1st ones to leave MA when Dar goes down.

restricted Views lol, the plane model ist self does that, in RL a pilot could turn his
head and upper body, and move some to look
around. we cant do that in a sim so we get views to use.

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Originally posted by R4M:
fact: I love online flight sims

Fact: AH is so far the only online flight sim worth paying.

Fact: AH, even though being a wonderful flight sim, does not (by far) fullfit what I would expect from a realistic flight simulator, thing that would be solved in a big part with an HA.

Fact: I stay here until there is something better, but that does not mean that I'm all that happy here, compared with I could be with an HA.

[This message has been edited by R4M (edited 05-31-2001).]

Author Topic: HT, PLEASE, put an HA up (Read 1955 times)

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