HT, PLEASE, put an HA up

[lazs]

translation of rams post... The ma sucks for LW planes.. the pilots who can only fly LW planes are leaving.   since LW planes were by far the best planes of WWII something must be wrong with the sim.   It is too easy for people to dodge LW planes so we need to make every plane but a 190 (and maybe a 109) blind to the rear so that LW planes can have a chance and HTC won't change back to the old wrong FM to keep people from dodging LW planes.  The planes in the ma don't play fair... They turn.. we need to create an environment where people are forced to fly LW planes.  If people still refuse to fly and/or respect LW planes then we must come up with even more restrictions.
lazs

[Westy MOL]

 ah! Lazs, so there is a common denominator to those leaving.  And I thought I was imagining things    I suppose there would have to be a new place where no matter how accurately modelled the 109 was it could still rule the roost for a year or so???  Hmmm. when did the 109 rule the skies.... ahhh. 1940 and before?? 1940!!! That's it!

 I wonder what will happen when 1943-1944 rolls on around in this new Valhalla    

 -Westy

[SeaWulfe]

Sad thing is, Westy and Lazs, if these self proclaimed "experten" put as much time trying new things out in the LW planes as they do complaining about 'em they'd find out they are still very competitive.

Oh and the 109 ruled the skies into 1942........ on the eastern front against I16s and other lesser abilitied aircraft.. maybe in Africa too against P40Bs and what not.
-SW

[BlauK]

Yeah, right...  

This is to you lazs, just as intelligent as your post:
"AH is a US game, US planes must be the best, after all Germany lost the war. Any pilot in a US plane must beat any pilot in a German plane.. otherwise moms little furballers will run away crying...."


Why do you all think HA such a threat to you??? You would still have your beloved latewar-furball-MA to have your fun at. You would just see less pilots in early war planes.. less easy kills eh?? Is that it?


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[R4M]

 

Originally posted by lazs:
translation of rams post... The ma sucks for LW planes.. the pilots who can only fly LW planes are leaving.   since LW planes were by far the best planes of WWII something must be wrong with the sim.   It is too easy for people to dodge LW planes so we need to make every plane but a 190 (and maybe a 109) blind to the rear so that LW planes can have a chance and HTC won't change back to the old wrong FM to keep people from dodging LW planes.  The planes in the ma don't play fair... They turn.. we need to create an environment where people are forced to fly LW planes.  If people still refuse to fly and/or respect LW planes then we must come up with even more restrictions.
lazs

You tiny little mr. Smartprettythang, you have stuck your feet into toejam because, since 1.07 was released the only time I got a hand on a german plane was yesterday, a 190D9. (and I got 5 kills with it).

All the rest of the time I've flown Il2, P38, P47D11,F4U1-d a bit of Ki61,tanks, bombers...even a couple of ostwinds.

So is not that the "LW planes are...or arent..." it is that the MA GAMEPLAY SUCKS (at least for me). And that the PEOPLE WHO HAS LEFT, think most of them the same about this.

You might like that opinion or not. But dont start the same stupid crap you allways do regarding the LW, because the LW has nothing to do with this.

Once again you show what you are.


Westy, I thought you had left posting.


AkSW, your vocabulary is bright. And your respect for eveyone's else opinions are just right...

NOT.


I "love" this community...

NOT.

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[Westy MOL]

Westy, I thought you had left posting.

 I stopped argueing with the radicals RAM. I never left. I just hardly post any more - xcept the last couple of days here have been slow.

 But what's your point? I've still got a lot of 'I quit' type of posts left to catch up to a lot of players here  

 -Westy



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[SeaWulfe]

Oh I'm supposed to respect your opinion when you essentially called everyone who enjoys the MA a... well hell I can just cut n paste what you said... "dweebish, no-skill, unrealistic, vulcherplace that in the end bores some of the best pilots around to the point to have to leave because they dont have fun anymore"


So we're all dweebs, no skill vulchers that are some of the worst "pilots" around because we have fun in the MA.

Yeah, I stand by my statement(s).
-SW

[DocFalconer1]

DAMMIT, shut the hell up...u flamers are just the problem.  Give thought to an idea before you let your whoopee little heads run wild.  Just make a few more axis and russian planes and vehicles, and get an arena similar to the one in FA!  It'll be a middle of the road solution--it won't be axis vs. allies, but there won't be any german vs. german fights or something similar.  In the meantime, STOP squeakING AND THINK whoopeeIT!!!!!!  THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU TYPE!!!!  ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!  AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!  *takes deep breath*

[Fatty]

This thread's been around about half a dozen times already, Doc.  It's been stopped, thought, rethought, restarted, rediscussed, reconsidered, and rebuked.  At any rate Pyro and HT aren't likely to ever go with it no matter what's decided here until the numbers are high enough to support 2 arenas (even at off hours).

[Westy MOL]

Doc I'd be for using that. The setup FA had was inovative and a good feature of that game.

 Japanese
 VVS
 German
 Italian
 UK
&US

 Six countries? So would this be a fighter world? The Japanese and Italian would be woefully short of plane types. No bombers. The Soviets would have an awesome fighter air arm but no real base killers - although they have the best two ground vehicle attack aircraft of all - Yak-9T and IL2.
 The UK would be the base porkers dreamland with the Typhon and Lancaster combo. Add in the Spit and Tempests and you'd have an awesome fighter mix too.  Italy with it's 202 and 205's would be gang banged mercilessly all the time and Germany would hardly get anything done with just the JU-88 and FW-190-F.  The US would have the best mix of all. Naval as weel as land based aircraft.

I would bet you'd see numbers like this in an HA where you could only fly the planes any country has modelled

Say 100 players in an HA:

 Japanese 8
 VVS      10
 German   10
 Italian  2
 UK       30
 US       40

 -Westy


(CCCP?  gack! changed <G> )

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[SeaWulfe]

It wuz feeexd.
-SW

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[DocFalconer1]

No doubt we need more planes--each country needs a goon, a heavy bomber, a jabo, an attack plane, a few carrier planes, and a fighter AT MINIMUM.

[Westy MOL]

 Rgr that Doc. Cause if you 'substitute' then it's the Main arena.

 And the Axis would need some late war bomebrs modelled eve if they were low numbered, even prototypes, aircraft to be on par with the Allied heavy bombers available.  Cause that has been the undoing in any AW or WB's HA/WW2 arena (in my opinion). The lack of a sutiable Axis bomber.  It helps to have some parity in damage and ability to take the war to each other.
 Parity in fighter aircraft? No way. Cause that boils down to the pilot and not soi much the machine  


 -Westy

[SeaWulfe]

Some countries have planes that can double as troop carriers and bombers. The UK I think is stuck on the troop carrier thing with the C47...

Germany could use Junkers as troop planes.. whatever Junkers version the below screenshot is (I forget.. brain fart):
 

Japanese could use the G4M Betty as a bomber and a troop transport.

VVS... hmmm not really sure. Didn't they have one plane that they loaded paratroopers onto by holding onto the wings? Hehe... imagine that, you would just have to shoot the wings before the troopers drop off and they can't drop their troops. :-)

Italian... Not sure?
-SW

[DocFalconer1]

LOL, strap the drunks onto a betty and let the nmy fighters shoot em off.

And: we may be able to substitute a heavy bomber for the germans in favor of the Hs-293...just a thought.

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