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« on: April 05, 2004, 09:27:59 AM »
At some point every one wants to make its own event with its own rules that he likes. But there are too few options to develop such events - the queve is quite long - for big events like SSO a.

What if we could do One frame squadron Ops after each 3 Frame Ops. When the event will be developed mostly by the squadron CO that participaits in these events.

Thus each time one of CO will submit its short scenario/rules etc. with main lines taken from SSO and FSO with different changes.

1st It will bring more ideas to rules and implementation of scenarios.
2nd It will also give to the CO apportunity to implement their ideas (and his squadron members ideas).
3rd It will give more open mind opinions and ideas to F/SSO.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2004, 08:25:47 PM »
That is an interesting idea. So every 4th Friday/Sunday (the week off in Squad Operations) C.O.’s or a C.O. plan a single frame Squad Operations?

I wonder how many would want to do this. Speaking for my squad most enjoy having that 4th Friday off for family, friends, going out, whatever… I doubt many in my squad would participate, but a few might. How do other squads and C.O.’s feel about this.

On the CM side of things it would take away a week off a Setup CM has. They would then work 4 weeks and have 3 off. I know it may not sound like much but after 3 Friday’s/Sunday’s in a row of setting up I doubt they would want to add another week.

I wonder if this might be better to coordinate this with the Snapshot team. Once a month there is a Snapshot on Wed/Thurs that Squads know what side they are on and walk on with plans in hand as we do in Squad Operations. This of course would be up to BigMax who head the Snapshots.

The idea has potential. Other thoughts?
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2004, 02:47:51 AM »
The snapshorts will not be best bcasue most of the time you get 15-20 folks and less organised flights. When we do it as part of SSO/FSO we get the same frame of squadrons, that are well organised for such events.

There is big difference between Squ. Ops. and snapshorts. Squadron Ops. are much more close to scenarios then to snapshorts.

Actually timing of One frame Ops should be same as that one of SSO/FSO to give good framework.

Most of people are usual to fly on these time and these evenings are mostly avialable for squadrons to make them together, when other times could be problematic for the squadrons.

So if we allready have good organised squadron frame we should go with it.

If it should be 4th frame after each 3 frame ops or maybe to put some times instead of Operation build of 3 framesput  3 oparations of 1 frame each one. Or maybe time to time build 2 frame ops and finish them with one COs build frame. (If it is very problematic for squadron to participate to 4th frame or/and for CMs to support last 4th CO frame).

But anyway I think that framework of such events should be same as of SSO/FSO.

If we do it in snapshorts time I doubt if lot of SSO/FSO squadrons will be able to take a part.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2004, 09:36:46 AM »
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There is big difference between Squ. Ops. and snapshorts. Squadron Ops. are much more close to scenarios then to snapshorts.
I realize that artik, I am the author of them both.  I was suggesting we hold an organized frame during the Snapshot times. Just a suggestion and up to BigMax really. You don’t know that most squads could participate because we have not asked yet. Maybe they would, maybe not, but you don’t just assume most would. Also again you are taking away a week off from the Setup CM’s. I am not saying we can’t do this, but I am saying there are hurdles to jump over first.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2004, 01:29:04 AM »
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You don't know that most squads could participate because we have not asked yet.  


So.... lets ask what is the squ. CO opinions..........
And what do they think about it at all....
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2004, 02:03:03 PM »
Ask away. Just post here to see how many would want to participate.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2004, 05:09:02 PM »
From the Snap Shot Team's perspective...

So Artik, you want to do this on the off Friday & Sunday during the regualer FSO/SSO times?  Or are we looking at doing on the Wednesday and/or Thursday in place of a Snap Shot?

In either case I'm with Daddog, let's see what the other CO's think and IF they are willing to commit to designing a frame... First.

THEN, If there's a good deal of interest I'm optimistic that we could find some CMs willing to host it...

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2004, 05:07:24 PM »
On the one Sunday off between SSO's is usually when the 101 Sqn gets together for some training,  but if Artik puts something together he has the 100% support of 101 sqn. If anything is planned you can count on us being there.