iraq uprising

[GtoRA2]

MJ
 Your right, I am sure the terrorists and Democrats will be the first to exploit this politicaly....

[mietla]

Originally posted by MJHerman
That said, the political fallout on the ground in Iraq will be negative, i.e., "Those Americans have no respect for our holy places".  

and that's exactly why they do it.

[MrLars]

< rant mode on >

Seems some of you feel that inciting the muslim world is a good thing.

Yeah, burn 'em all with napalm....stupid knee jerk reactions like that will do nothing but show the world that, although we're invinceable, this administration doesn't have neither the temperment, intelligence nor the proper morality to weild that power, IMO.

Having non-muslims encroach on a religious 'compound' isn't how this war will be won. The result of this action is going to be used as a recuiting tool for yet another generation of anti-american terrorists. Every day there are moderate muslims who want to take up arms against us after seeing, hearing or experiencing the results of having non-muslims damaging, defiling and disrespecting their places of worship.

This cycle has to end if we truly want to curtail terrorisim worldwide. What has happened this past year has too few benifits compaired the coalescence in the muslim world against not only Americans but other western nations as well.

I have no answers for our situation in Iraq, however, I'm certian that this realy isn't the time to bring out the big stick without regard to the effect that collateral casualties will have in the muslim world. How many more generations of terrorists will our government create before it sees the danger and longlastiing negitave effects of weilding the biggest stick on the planet?

BTW, you guys that think that you'll be safe from the draft if Dubya wins in '04 better think again. This administration has plans to take people up to the age of 45 to fill some slots in the tech feild. The lessons learned during the VN era draft will come to play when there will be much fewer catagories for deferment available and those will be very narrowly defined.

< rant mode off >

Thanks Dubya < spits >

[Sixpence]

Ya know, that's a good point, we should let the Iraqi police blow up the mosque.

[Skuzzy]

Backing away will not solve it.  We backed away for too long and it got over 3,000 civilians killed on 9/11.  Your presumption, if I may suggest, is that there can be a peace accord reached with them.
I submit there is no possible way for peace to occur.  There is no possible scenario that would cause terrorists to back away from the United States.  There never has been one, and there never will be one.
It does not matter who our political leaders are, it does not matter who makes what choice.  There will never be an accord reached with people who are so willing to take human life in the name of religion.

[GtoRA2]

Mrlars
"BTW, you guys that think that you'll be safe from the draft if Dubya wins in '04 better think again. This administration has plans to take people up to the age of 45 to fill some slots in the tech feild. The lessons learned during the VN era draft will come to play when there will be much fewer catagories for deferment available and those will be very narrowly defined. "

Link please?

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Backing away will not solve it.  We backed away for too long and it got over 3,000 civilians killed on 9/11.

So you are saying if we got rid of saddam in "91", that there would be no OBL or 9/11? If we go by your statement, we should have invaded Iran instead. I'll never understand the connection between 9/11 and Iraq, even our administration has backed of that assertion.

[Rasker]

hmm wonder what it would take to ship a bunch of "Kerry" buttons off to these insurgents? mwaahaahaa Tell them the buttons have magic powers

[Hristo]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Backing away will not solve it.  We backed away for too long and it got over 3,000 civilians killed on 9/11.  Your presumption, if I may suggest, is that there can be a peace accord reached with them.
I submit there is no possible way for peace to occur.  There is no possible scenario that would cause terrorists to back away from the United States.  There never has been one, and there never will be one.
It does not matter who our political leaders are, it does not matter who makes what choice.  There will never be an accord reached with people who are so willing to take human life in the name of religion.

I see it just the other way around. You reap what you saw.

Not that US was backing off too much, in fact it was sticking its nose too much in Middle East, that's why it got hurt.

Sad for those who died, but true.

Think about it. Why aren't countries that do not interfer in Middle East attacked ? Why aren't terrorists targetting Island, Finland or
Jamaica, for example ?

[Morpheus]

Backing away will not solve it. We backed away for too long and it got over 3,000 civilians killed on 9/11

Amen...

Some seem to foget that small fact.

Many, including myself had friends/family members in those whoopee towers. Was it their fault some arrogant mid eastern lunatic flew a jet into the side of them? Don't test me on this topic, I have little respect for those who think it was the US who provoked this insane act.

I watched those towers fall, not on TV mind you, but from miles away. Nothing has ever affected me more than that day and those hours.

I dont care about their stupid huts, where they say they just practice their religion. Do the think we are that stupid? Everytime another one of those AK toating basterds dies it makes me feel a little bit better inside about this world and the fact that there is justice.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Amen...

Some seem to foget that small fact.

Ah, the fact that even the administration has backed off the assertion of Iraq being linked to 9/11?

BTW, OBL is still running around, shouldn't we be hunting him down instead?

[Capt. Pork]

Originally posted by Hristo
Why aren't terrorists targetting Island, Finland or
Jamaica, for example ?

Because Finland and Jamaica are ineffectual. Nobody cares enough to care enough.

If the US pulled out of Iraq tomorrow, and stopped aid to Israel the next day. Somebody would find a new reason to burn our flag before the weekend.

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by Sixpence
So you are saying if we got rid of saddam in "91", that there would be no OBL or 9/11? If we go by your statement, we should have invaded Iran instead. I'll never understand the connection between 9/11 and Iraq, even our administration has backed of that assertion.

I never specifically said a thing about Iraq.  I said we sat around too long and got a lot of innocent people killed.  Please do not put words in my mouth.

[Hristo]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Everytime another one of those AK toating basterds dies it makes me feel a little bit better inside about this world and the fact that there is justice.

With all respect to the dead, but this statement could very well be a terrorist slogan.

Stop poking them and they'll stop stinging back. Not instantly, as there are generations who grew up on hate. Maybe it is even too late.

Ever since oil became important the problems started. That's the problem with Middle East, not Kur'an.

Continue the omnipresent US interference in every country on this planet and some people will fight back. Some using terrorist means.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
I never specifically said a thing about Iraq.  I said we sat around too long and got a lot of innocent people killed.  Please do not put words in my mouth.

When you said backing away, I took it as the situation in Iraq. Sorry if I misunderstood.