Author Topic: Selective service boards and the Draft. (Read 1562 times)

GtoRA2 · « **on:** April 08, 2004, 10:36:33 PM »

The Bush admin had started to try and fill the draft boards. Just do a search for "draft coming back"

You will see alot of site some total crap, but one thing seems to be common, they are filling the draft boards and getting the system ready.

Is this Democrat plot to weaken Bush?

I do not think so actauly.

Now you guys know I am not a lefty.

I am going to post a link to Salon.com though, (second artical I ever read there) cause it seemed well written and somewhat balanced.

link to Salons artical.

If this is true, from what I read 18 to 26 year olds would be draftable.

Many of the loopholds are gone, if you are in coledge, you get to finish the semestor. A colodge senior? You get to finish the year. Nation gaurd units are getting called up so no safety their.

In a way I think thats good, why should rich boys get off cause momy and dady can pay for school, and poor kids get to die and fight? (scared yet froggie?)

Would the Army want the draft? I would think not the conscript army sucks and they would have to dumb it down some.
I also think this would tear the country apart. It would be a bad thing since the war in Iraq is no WW2 or Even Korea.

The jist of the articals is Bush will have to do this to maintain troop levels and morale in the troops if re-elistments and recruitment starts to drop off.

This scares me, and I hope Bush does not do it. It would do much more harm then good. I would rather see us leave Iraq, before the job is done then cause the kind of damage this would cause in our country.

What do you guys think? Please try and keep is civil, I know that tough for some of you rabid bush haters, but you wont make you points if you only spew the same tired BS.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #1 on:** April 08, 2004, 10:46:22 PM »

If the draft is brought back I dont think I'd be too happy about it... I think it would be a definate wrong move.

Not because I wouldnt want to go - I was discharged from the Marine Corps due to 'semi-permenant' injury and hell, I volunteered for that - but rather because I think that if the draft is necessary, the war isnt.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 08, 2004, 10:51:31 PM »

Saur,
Well I am old and fat so, they wouldnt take me if I wanted to go.

well old being thirty. MrLars alluded that they may take up to 40 plus year olds for hard to fill jobs but I never saw him post a link and I found nothing about that anywhere.

Still I agree, this war is not worth what the draft would do to the country, left right politics are bad now, I can not imagine how bad they would get...

Still, we won't know tell Bush is in the white house for another 4 years, but even if it is Kerry, and he decided to stay in Iraq, this may be needed.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #3 on:** April 08, 2004, 10:56:16 PM »

Interesting timeline. I can see it being enacted - if necessary - near the end of a second Bush term. I dont think Kerry would dare to even think about it during a first term - political suicide.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 08, 2004, 10:59:11 PM »

Good point, I had not thought about that, about Kerry.

Your right about Bush though, though I could see it earlier, what does he have to lose if he wins.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #5 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:09:51 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2

Your right about Bush though, though I could see it earlier, what does he have to lose if he wins.

Nothing, thats kind of why I read the article a little more seriously than I would normally.

If there is any President who has the history of making a quick decision... and acting on it in the interests of the country as a whole... its Bush. I can see him as the President that would do it.

Much like you, I support most of the things he does, and as of right now, he has my vote in November - but this (if done) I would be firmly against.

Be interesting to see what the rest of the lads have to say.

NUKE · « **Reply #6 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:11:51 PM »

The draft is always an option but I don't think it would be implemented unless the survival of the United States was at stake.... and if that were the case, there would be lines at the enlistment offices anyway.

Westy · « **Reply #7 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:12:53 PM »

"This scares me"

Not me. I'm too old to be a front line troop (was Navy anyways and they retired or scrapped everything I worked on back when I was in; tube radios, mechanical teletypes, etc...) and my sons are too young.

"What do you guys think?"

I'll feed and shelter anyone who needs it as they travel off to thier vacation in Canada.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #8 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:15:06 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
and if that were the case, there would be lines at the enlistment offices anyway.

Why do you think that? Given the nature of todays society I cant see many people signing up at all.

The deeds and conviction of the 'Greatest Generation' were admirable, but then TV showed up...

NUKE · « **Reply #9 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:21:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Why do you think that? Given the nature of todays society I cant see many people signing up at all.

The deeds and conviction of the 'Greatest Generation' were admirable, but then TV showed up...

if the survival of the United States were at stake, I believe there would be lines at the enlistment offices.

You think the citizens would roll over if our survival was at stake? I don't.

AdmRose · « **Reply #10 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:24:30 PM »

No problem with me, I signed up voluntarily. Leave for basic June 22.

Nefarious · « **Reply #11 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:29:33 PM »

It Doesnt scare me.

And I'm Prime Grade A according to the Above guidelines...

I'm 23, I'm done with college, and i'm in generally good health.

From what I've read, The average age of the American Enlisted Man Killed In Action in Vietnam was 22. The Officer, 28.

Making the Total Average out of every KIA: 23

I'm not saying I'm gung ho for going to war, and i'm not to thrilled with the handling of the war in Iraq. But if this were to heat up beyond where a draft were to take place, I would go.

But I'd go Navy (if I could) and I would probably end up making it my career.

bullett308 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:35:40 PM »

This Is gonna make a few of you mad but here goes.

I think It should be mandatory to serve your country for 2years after high school.

You wanna enjoy all the freedoms brought to you by the blood of our fathers and grand fathers in ww1 and ww2 and korea and viet nam?

Well you aint too good to earn your keep.
God Bless all the young men and women who VOLUNTEERD to serve and who at this very moment are fighting and dying

I did my time 1976-80 and If they would have my middle aged arse I would go again.

There Is no greater love a man can give than to fight and maybe die for his country.

Every single one of them over there right now are HERO'S.

But I don't think the draft will be brought back.

So we are all safe to sit on our collective butts and second quess people much smarter than us on how or why the war should be fought.

bullett308 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:36:16 PM »

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Originally posted by AdmRose
No problem with me, I signed up voluntarily. Leave for basic June 22.

bullett308 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:37:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Nefarious
It Doesnt scare me.

And I'm Prime Grade A according to the Above guidelines...

I'm 23, I'm done with college, and i'm in generally good health.

From what I've read, The average age of the American Enlisted Man Killed In Action in Vietnam was 22. The Officer, 28.

Making the Total Average out of every KIA: 23

I'm not saying I'm gung ho for going to war, and i'm not to thrilled with the handling of the war in Iraq. But if this were to heat up beyond where a draft were to take place, I would go.

But I'd go Navy (if I could) and I would probably end up making it my career.

You would be smart to pusue OCS and be an officer with you education .