More guns = less crime? – why not try it in Iraq?

[lazs2]

irrefutable tho.  contrast 28 days later with dawn of the dead.  

in the end... only guns will save us.

plus... ya gotta admit... the zombie arguement is much more relevant than the original post.

lazs

[AKIron]

Originally posted by lazs2
Zombie tags will be handed out on a lottery system and there will need to be zombie preserves.

lazs

LOL

I think you can give Airhead a run for his money Lazs.

[storch]

The Iraqi's need  (my opinion)

1. more guns the bigger the better

2. daily air drops of alcohol, porn and ammunition pipe in MTV for good measure.

3. us to step back and watch

problem solved in 3 weeks

[Gixer]

"As for NZ... well.... we could send you guys a few of our gang members... maybe just a couple hundred thousand or so and they would decimate your tiny little island like army ants... you would be crying to have guns to defend yourself."

Not much chance of that old chap, the Maori's would eat them. But I'm sure even for a tiny little island (love the I'm bigger then you deragatory statement)  the biggest gang in our country could handle them easily, plus they have a bonus that the law is on their side. Their called the police.



...-Gixer

[ravells]

Lasz...you should watch that film 'Once were warriors'.

Maories are tough! And big!

Ravs

[storch]

Great film though i found it deeply deeply disturbing.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Get the biggest toughest meanest sob's you can find, choose 15 of them, give them a rugby ball - then introduce them to the All Blacks.....

[-tronski-]

make the man some eggs....

 Tronsky

[lazs2]

wow gixer... we shoulda thought of that.   We could stop the mexican and black and russian and asian gangs by simply.... what was it you do?  Oh, hire policemen.   I guess if it got too bad we could simply give the policemen guns.

If our gang members didn't wipe out your indiginous bad guys they would.... hire em.   It's the American way.

and shad... we aren't talking 15 of anyone here or sports.

lazs

[_Schadenfreude_]

Well in my defence if we can bring in the zombie argument we should at least be able to talk about rugby too.

[lazs2]

I am too old and weak to play rugby with anyone but BB guys but....

I'm still strong enough to sqeeze a trigger.

lazs

[gofaster]

Does Iraq even have gun laws?

[beet1e]

Originally posted by AKIron
Guns allow people to overthrow their government. Since we just threw out their government and are acting in it's stead, we really don't want them shooting at us. Isn't this kinda obvious?  

Oh OK. So the US government lets you keep your guns just in case you decide you can't wait till November to get rid of Bush.

Quite a few people here have mentioned the US being "at war" with Iraq. I thought the war was between the US-led alliance and the Iraqi regime led by Saddam, who was deposed on April 9th,2003. The hostilities that have occurred since are not technically acts of war, but a civil uprising. But I accept that the word "war" could be used as a euphemism for the severe hostilities taking place in Iraq.

The British stand-up comedian Jasper Carrott once focussed on people's obsession with dieting and weight loss, during one of his shows. (Jasper himself is quite a thin guy) He pondered over why people would spend fortunes going to weight loss farms, seeing dieticians and trying different diets which never seemed to work. One he'd got the audience into a frenzy of laughter, he announced that the answer to the western world's obesity problem was simple!!! "This hole here..." he thundered, pointing at his mouth "...is bigger than this hole here!!" he added, pointing at his arse. Thus, the current fat trend was analysed in less than 10 words!

What would Jasper have had to say about guns? I don't think he would have bothered considering the "guns don't kill" rhetoric. He needn't even have looked at the homicide stats, as these would have told him nothing he didn't already know. He'd have said something like "It's bleedin' obvious! The more guns that are around, the more people are going to get shot!" Certainly this is borne out in places like Iraq and America, where substantial numbers of people are killed by gunfire on a daily basis.

In Britain, I am reliably informed that a handgun can now be bought on the blackmarket from the criminal underworld for as little as £40. And they're coming in from everywhere. (I'm not at liberty to reveal my source of this data) So whereas in earlier years about 60 people at most were victims of gun homicide, last year's total was 96. Because guess what? The folks that buy those guns don't buy them because they have an interest in the history of firearms. They don't buy them to go shooting at a range or gun club. They don't buy them to marvel the quality of engineering that went into their construction. No. They buy them because they want to be able to shoot someone.

Thus... there is a direct link between the number of guns in circulation and the number of people who get shot. It really is that simple. Funny how so many people struggle to make the connection.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by beet1e
"This hole here..." he thundered, pointing at his mouth "...is bigger than this hole here!!" he added, pointing at his arse. Thus, the current fat trend was analysed in less than 10 words!
 

He obviously never saw some my turds. Pardon my Frenc..., er vulgarity.

[lazs2]

Hmm... I am not stuggling in the least.   When enough bad guys get guns then... the more guns the good guys have the less crime there is.

I am on record for telling you that when your criminal element gets big enough and mean enough.....not pansy little smash and run brit criminals but real 3rd worlders with a sociopaths idea of the value of human life...  well... these guys are gonna kill... they are gonna do it with whatever but mostly guns  they are gonna get guns if they want em..

what it boils down to is... you have given away your rights for nothing... you have merely diarmed the law abiding.

lazs