Author Topic: More guns = less crime? – why not try it in Iraq?  (Read 1094 times)

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More guns = less crime? – why not try it in Iraq?
« on: April 10, 2004, 09:31:42 AM »
My O’Club gun mentors have been at pains to impress upon me that an increase in the number of guns will result in less crime, not more. American states which have introduced concealed carry permits have (we are told) seen their homicide rates drop. “Our government has no right to tell me what type of guns I should be allowed to have for my own defence”, proclaims il capo di tutti capi of the AH Guns-R-US lobby.  Of course, the rest of the world sits open mouthed in amazement when reviewing certain statistics which belie these assertions, but that’s not what I’m here to discuss today.

In Iraq, we (the allied forces of occupation) have a serious problem in the form of civil uprising. What can be done? Much of the danger seems to stem from snipers with Kalashnikovs and from young men armed with rocket propelled grenades. B-b-but… more guns = less crime, right? Ah! I get it… there aren’t enough armed civilians in Iraq. More guns could be the answer. Distribute more Kalashnikovs. Legalise concealed carry. In preparation for Iraqi democracy, the people should be indoctrinated with the belief that their government does not have the right to tell them what kind of weapons they are allowed to have for their defence. Children under 12 could carry Bulgarian Mackarovs. Women wearing burquas would not find it difficult to conceal a Kalashnikov under there, so they could be made safe. All males above the age of 14 should be allowed grenade launchers. Every family dwelling should be given a belt-fed machine gun.

More Guns Less Crime! The solution is simple! :aok

What are the allies waiting for? How many guns have they distributed amongst citizens to combat the current bout of lawlessness? How many grenade launchers? How many belt-fed machine guns? Erm…  well none, actually.

Funny how the allies are avoiding taking the one obvious step that could solve the current crisis.

Why’s that then? :confused:

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2004, 09:41:41 AM »
I knew warm beer didn't instil super mental bbs powers, but this is just embarrassing.

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Re: More guns = less crime? – why not try it in Iraq?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2004, 09:42:05 AM »
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My O’Club gun mentors have been at pains to impress upon me that an increase in the number of guns will result in less crime, not more. American states which have introduced concealed carry permits have (we are told) seen their homicide rates drop. “Our government has no right to tell me what type of guns I should be allowed to have for my own defence”, proclaims il capo di tutti capi of the AH Guns-R-US lobby.  Of course, the rest of the world sits open mouthed in amazement when reviewing certain statistics which belie these assertions, but that’s not what I’m here to discuss today.

In Iraq, we (the allied forces of occupation) have a serious problem in the form of civil uprising. What can be done? Much of the danger seems to stem from snipers with Kalashnikovs and from young men armed with rocket propelled grenades. B-b-but… more guns = less crime, right? Ah! I get it… there aren’t enough armed civilians in Iraq. More guns could be the answer. Distribute more Kalashnikovs. Legalise concealed carry. In preparation for Iraqi democracy, the people should be indoctrinated with the belief that their government does not have the right to tell them what kind of weapons they are allowed to have for their defence. Children under 12 could carry Bulgarian Mackarovs. Women wearing burquas would not find it difficult to conceal a Kalashnikov under there, so they could be made safe. All males above the age of 14 should be allowed grenade launchers. Every family dwelling should be given a belt-fed machine gun.

More Guns Less Crime! The solution is simple! :aok

What are the allies waiting for? How many guns have they distributed amongst citizens to combat the current bout of lawlessness? How many grenade launchers? How many belt-fed machine guns? Erm…  well none, actually.

Funny how the allies are avoiding taking the one obvious step that could solve the current crisis.

Why’s that then? :confused:

Toodle-Pip (till Monday)

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Beetle, gun laws or any other law matter very little in a country at war.

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Re: Re: More guns = less crime? – why not try it in Iraq?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2004, 09:48:44 AM »
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gun laws or any other law matter very little in a country at war.


For some reason, that sentence seems a little odd.

BTW, how many more guns do they need? But fret not, article 17 should take care of the gun situation.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2004, 10:04:05 AM »
Guns allow people to overthrow their government. Since we just threw out their government and are acting in it's stead, we really don't want them shooting at us. Isn't this kinda obvious? I know I know Bett1e, you were just trying to make a point. Sorry but it really is logical for a bit of gun control in their country just now. Once a new constitution of their own making and government of their own choosing is in place they can have all the dang guns they want.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2004, 11:30:21 AM »
Wow, it's amazing you can even manage to work a computer to type this stuff.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2004, 11:42:39 AM »
lol Beet1e.

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2004, 12:09:11 PM »
No
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2004, 12:45:33 PM »
Beet, the petrol goes in the tank, not in your inhaler.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2004, 12:51:43 PM »
WE don't need to distribute guns to Iraquis.  They can get 'em from Pakistan I think.

The whole idea of our Constitution is based on rational thinking people such as our forefathers were.  It was designed for the United States as our Constitution.  We have not imposed our Constitution on Great Britain, and we're not going to impose it on Iraq.  Or I should say, it's too bad they don't have a constitution like ours.  Maybe one day they will have, but it's up to them to to make it so.

Beet1e, I'm surprized at you.  Trying to equate the two (our Constitutional rights for law abiding citizens) and those of another country at which we are at war for comparison.  I mean that was what you're getting at in a roundabout way.  So please explain.  I don't understand why you suggest we grant 2nd amendment rights to people in a country with which we are at war.  2nd amendment rights are guaranteed to American citizens.  That's who the rights apply to.

Rights not to be found anywhere else in the world.


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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2004, 12:59:00 PM »
What we are seeing is the ability of an armed militia to overthrow an opressive government!! Have to go and see if there's a pic of George W next to the word Irony in my dictionary.

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2004, 01:02:40 PM »
What we're seeing is the pride of Muslims rejecting the great Satan. Or so they've been led to believe from the cradle. Doesn't help any that their indignation has been further fueled by so many anti-American zealots throughout Europe.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2004, 01:19:50 PM »
That easy CAUSE THERE IDIOTS!!

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2004, 01:25:08 PM »
Damn, how many times do I have to squelch RC51/59bassman/LAWcobra/bullett308/tard?
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2004, 01:31:11 PM »
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That easy CAUSE THERE IDIOTS!!


You make a great argument for American gun control. :rolleyes: