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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2004, 12:56:37 AM »
One from the old school.  Back in the days when sacrifice was a reverred national trait.  

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2004, 01:07:25 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2004, 02:04:49 AM »
It saved AMERICAN lives !
I dont really agree with dropping on civillian targets though.

Exept Falluja

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2004, 02:17:21 AM »
Goes both ways, what if it had been the japanese that dropped it on us?

They did countless horrible things as did we, its all in the past and it was all war.

IMHO we should move on, never forget, but move on.

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2004, 03:07:37 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2004, 07:06:51 AM »
There, unpoliticized. But a thread like this is inherently political, especially today...

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2004, 07:13:41 AM »
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Goes both ways, what if it had been the japanese that dropped it on us?


From what I read, they were experimenting with chemical weapons. They devised a way to deliver them by sending them off in balloons, the winds would carry the balloons to the west coast. I believe one of these experimental balloons actually made it to the west coast, but I do not believe it contained a weapon.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2004, 08:00:04 AM »
Nefarious, you are sick.  This is not the place for your liberalist propoganda.

The best thing we can do is think about the contribution Lt Col Olivi made to the U.S.

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2004, 10:37:24 AM »
rgr, i heard bout that Sixpence, they develpoed tons of projects like that with chemical and biological weapons.

Also i believe ur right, i think afew of those balloons made it to the west coast, but i dont think any caused real damage.

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2004, 10:41:38 AM »
Those Pictures were posted after Grunherz comments about "Poor Japanese Freedom Fighters" I just wanted to show him how poor they really are.

Like I said Above, The Atomic bombs played an important part in Ending the War In Japan, No doubt about it. But the targets picked were in based on a Judgement that I beleive was wrong.

I Salute Lt Col Olivi for his actions on August 9th 1945 and for his entire service in WW2.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2004, 11:21:08 AM »
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From what I read, they were experimenting with chemical weapons. They devised a way to deliver them by sending them off in balloons, the winds would carry the balloons to the west coast. I believe one of these experimental balloons actually made it to the west coast, but I do not believe it contained a weapon.


One did make it to the west coast, and, in fact, caused causilties when a group of kids found the incindiery payload and started messing with it. Five kids where killed in the explosion.

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2004, 11:22:19 AM »
Nefaioous why don't you show pictures of Nanchang? Any others from the Japanese invasion of China. How about the Bataan operation? The "experimentation" on POW's by their benevolent captors, the execution of POW Doolittle Raiders?

I suppose they were all OK since it didn't involve the use of a nuclear device. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2004, 11:27:34 AM »
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The war was ended faster and with less casualties than if an invasion had been attempted.


Bingo.


Plus it made a really big bang.  Quite effective if you ask me.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2004, 11:43:52 AM »
it saved countless civilian and military casualties.   The japs were gonna fight it out to the last man woman and child... the jap command had no compunction about telling civilians to commitg suicide when the Americans came or in having them attack soldiers with sticks or suicide planes.

More civilians were killed by "normal" firebombing.... guess we coulda kept that up and then invaded...   Is it better to be scorched to death?   The targets for the bombs were chosen because they had not been firebombed yet...  we wanted us and the world to see how effective these bombs were.

We owe a great debt to the people who worked on and delivered those bombs and so do the japs.

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