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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2004, 12:53:09 PM »
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bah...lucky you. it's been my experience that most seem to run away when they see a lone Knight P-38 on the prowl.


I ran into a knight 38 last night.  He was vulching and bouncing rollers at a rook base, along w/ a friend of his or 3. I myself had managed to evade the vulchers and get airborne.

Knight 38 tried to rope my single engine plane.  Knight 38 exploded in a shower of 38 confetti... beautiful.  :)
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2004, 01:44:23 PM »
VULCHING KILLS!
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2004, 02:15:52 PM »
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I ran into a knight 38 last night.  He was vulching and bouncing rollers at a rook base, along w/ a friend of his or 3. I myself had managed to evade the vulchers and get airborne.

Knight 38 tried to rope my single engine plane.  Knight 38 exploded in a shower of 38 confetti... beautiful.  :)



Ummm...actually neither my squaddie or I were vulching and there were 5 Rookies up over that field at staggered alts.  I admit while roping the La7, I didn't see you dive in on the fight until I reversed over the top.  Didn't matter though, I still managed to bag 7 Rookies.


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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2004, 03:30:12 PM »
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Originally posted by dedalos
Bahh, Slap is Spit V is easy pickings.  Just make sure he does not see you before you shoot and then run as fast as you can.


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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2004, 03:35:43 PM »
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Ummm...actually neither my squaddie or I were vulching and there were 5 Rookies up over that field at staggered alts. I admit while roping the La7, I didn't see you dive in on the fight until I reversed over the top. Didn't matter though, I still managed to bag 7 Rookies.



Good job on the 7 rooks.   I didn't dive into any fight.  I had upped a spitV from the base and climbed your rope. I popped you right as you reversed. Staggered alts...maybe up to 1.5k, but you had more E than all of them.  :)
Ack was down and both Hylandr and Kotzebui were vulching.  Maybe you didn't get any on the ground., but you pounced plenty of low/slow bogs that had just upped.  Dunno why you are trying to pervert the scenario so blatantly, considering I had left all names out of it.
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2004, 04:13:10 PM »
While I am at it.  Perk Steve too. :D
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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2004, 05:28:46 PM »
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Its too ubber :D


Stop that!!!!!!!

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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2004, 07:02:23 PM »
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Good job on the 7 rooks.   I didn't dive into any fight.  I had upped a spitV from the base and climbed your rope. I popped you right as you reversed. Staggered alts...maybe up to 1.5k, but you had more E than all of them.  :)
Ack was down and both Hylandr and Kotzebui were vulching.  Maybe you didn't get any on the ground., but you pounced plenty of low/slow bogs that had just upped.  Dunno why you are trying to pervert the scenario so blatantly, considering I had left all names out of it.



Truthfully, never saw those other two Knights over the field but most of my attention was focusing on those my squad mate would train for me to pick.


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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2004, 07:41:16 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2004, 07:49:48 PM »
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Kweassa i hope you not serious   bah. 38 might as well perked. its icon is like one already. just like other perked planes, if 38 is in area, seems everyone is on it. from my expierence of course. ord load is nice tho


 Nope, dead serious.

 In my way of thinking, a lot of the problems which we perceive in the MA is caused by the disparity between reality and MA gameplay. Ofcourse, an effort to completely change the MA into a historic ground would be futile, not to mention not very wise. But some aspects could considerably enhance the game experience and get rid of the perpetual complaints.

 One of them often mentioned - the suicidal porker mentality.

 A lone P-38L can carry an uncommon ordnance load of 2x 1000lbs load + 10 x HVARs rated at 250lbs worth of destructive power. That's 4500lbs  load of ordnance - more than needs to destroy a single fighter hangar. Four P-38Ls can shut down a small and medium field by themselves.

 A single P-47D-30 carries a 2x1000lbs load, 1x500lb load and extra 10xHVARs - 5000lbs worth of ordnance.

 Considering a single B-17 in AH carries 6000lbs and medium bombers besides those of the US typically carry a lot less than that, it's frankly a balance-buster in regards to plane types.


 ..

 Ofcourse, most pilots are largely mediocre and it is unlikely they can hit the target with extreme excellence. But since even a doofus would usually bring down a FH if he suicides it twice..

 In more understandable words, it means that the risk-to-result factor is highly in favor of the suicidal mentality. The late war monsters, usually US planes, are totally free to access with no outer limitations.

 They carry so much ordnance that considering the outcome of the expected attack, a suicidal attempt has a high chance of critically damaging the enemies ability to fight.

 In other words, you don't necessarily need to practice and enhance one's skill to make it count for your country. All you need is blind devotion and determination - couple that insane passion with a slight local numbers advantage, and you can achieve local air superiority, even as far as a field capture, with consecutive suicidal attacks. A few people can just slip through and auger themselves into the field and they will at least take a fuel tank with them. Four of these sort of people in the area and a small field is down to 25% fuel or no FH.

 What makes it worse, is that the late war planes are optimized fighter-bombers, usually with incredible dive capability and blinding speed. Even a La-7 sometimes has trouble intercepting a suicidal Typh or a P-51D WEPing in a full throttle dive to the field.

 Usually only after the the bomb and ordnance is dropped and the enemy pulls out,(which is obviously too late) they can catch up. Since AH doesn't model the realistic speed limits to planes carrying ordnance, not to mention the flight conditions and procedures such as no -G flying during a bomb run, any fool with a heavy bomb load and a bit of alt will pass through the defenses and destroy something(and then, get shot down immediately).

 ..

 All of the factors above contribute to one thing: the result of havoc and grief one suicidal plane can cause, greatly outweighs the consequences of death - thus, people will choose to kamikaze something if they need to. It's only one death to the suicidal people - but through a few such deaths they can render the whole enemy presence in the area unable to fight.

 

 Thus, I have made the conclusion that reverting the MA time-line to sometime resembling mid-late '43, is a viable alternative to seek out.

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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2004, 08:01:07 PM »
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Truthfully, never saw those other two Knights over the field but most of my attention was focusing on those my squad mate would train for me to pick.


Hylandr died over the base while you were whacking a couple of guys over the town.  Kotz was a nik right on the deck at the base.  He was ignoring airborne fighters, preferring instead to vulch.
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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2004, 08:58:42 PM »
wooooooooowie

Looky wut I started!

I can feel the beating Killn's gonna give me fer startin this one :D
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2004, 09:10:34 PM »
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Staggered alts...maybe up to 1.5k, but you had more E than all of them.  
Ack was down and both Hylandr and Kotzebui were vulching. Maybe you didn't get any on the ground., but you pounced plenty of low/slow bogs that had just upped.


How do you think all those P-38 kill landed messages come up so often?  :D

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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2004, 01:23:06 AM »
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Hylandr died over the base while you were whacking a couple of guys over the town.  Kotz was a nik right on the deck at the base.  He was ignoring airborne fighters, preferring instead to vulch.



Truthfully, if they aren't squad mates I really don't pay much attention to other Knights unless I know them well.  


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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2004, 02:52:01 AM »
Perking bombs for the 38 would do the trick.
More A2A, I hate to see suicide tools auger their Lightning next to a vh, my heart bleeds everytime i see this. Kick those fools out of the cockpit :D
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