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Offline JBA

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« on: April 14, 2004, 08:43:17 AM »
Who received a letter stating the following on May 6th of 2001?

it said the following.

"With the concept of jihad, do you think it would be difficult for a determined terrorist to get on a plane and destroy himself and all other passengers?" he warned. "Think what the result would be of a coordinated attack which took down several domestic flights on the same day. With our current screening, this is more than possible. It is almost likely." The toll from such an attack would be economic, as well as human, he predicted with chilling accuracy.
John Kerry did according to Brian Sullivan, retired FAA special agent who "personally warned Kerry that Logan was ripe for a "jihad" suicide operation possibly involving "a coordinated attack.""

Mr. Sullivan followed up by having the undercover videotape showing the security failures at Logan hand delivered to Kerry's office. He received a reply from Kerry's office 11 weeks later:

"I have forwarded your tape to the Department of Transportation's Office of Inspector General [DOT OIG],"
Yet Sullivan had made it clear in his letter that going to his old agency was a dead end. He and other agents had complained about security lapses for years and got nowhere. "The DOT OIG has become an ineffective overseer of the FAA," he told Kerry. Sullivan suggested he show the tape to peers on committees with FAA oversight. He even volunteered to testify before them.
But he never heard from Kerry again.


Was that the end of it? No. Another agent involved in the sting at Logan offered to fly to Washington at his own expense to give a presentation to Kerry on the lack of airport security. The response?

But a Kerry aide said not to bother. "You're not a constituent," Elson was told just a few weeks before the hijackings. He went ballistic, warning that if Kerry didn't act soon he'd risk the lives of planeloads of his actual constituents. That warning now looks like prophecy: At least 82 Kerry constituents were murdered aboard American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175.

YOU'RE NOT A CONSTITUENT?

Apparently Mr. Kerry didn't have the foresight to understand that security at Logan airport may affect the safety of his constituents,even if it was brought to his attention by someone who lived outside of Massachusets.

Certainly this was not our only intelligence failure surrounding the attacks on 09/11. Yet, the sheer hypocrisy of Kerry and his supporters is astounding in light of this information. They've accused the President of stonewalling the 09/11 commission, (when in fact they've been given unprecendented access to Presidential briefings), and accused the Bush administration of politicizing 09/11.

When will John Kerry be testifying before the commission?
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2004, 08:48:08 AM »
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The intelligence included reports of a hostage plot against Americans. It noted that operatives might choose to hijack an aircraft or storm a U.S. embassy. Without knowing when, where or how the terrorists would strike, the CIA "consistently described the upcoming attacks as occurring on a catastrophic level, indicating that they would cause the world to be in turmoil," according to one of two staff reports released by the panel yesterday.

"Reports similar to these were made available to President Bush in the morning meetings with [Director of Central Intelligence George J.] Tenet," the commission staff said.

The information offers the most detailed account to date of the warnings the intelligence community gave top Bush administration officials, and provides the context in which a CIA briefer put together a memo on Osama bin Laden's activities in the Aug. 6 PDB for Bush.

The government moved on several fronts to counter the threats. The CIA launched "disruption operations" in 20 countries. Tenet met or phoned 20 foreign intelligence officials. Units of the 5th Fleet were redeployed. Embassies went on alert. Cheney called Crown Prince Adbullah of Saudi Arabia to ask for help. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice asked the CIA to brief Attorney General John D. Ashcroft about an "imminent" terrorist attack whose location was unknown.

"The system was blinking red," Tenet told the commission in private testimony, the panel's report noted.

In this context, Bush "had occasionally asked his briefers whether any of the threats pointed to the United States," the report said. Or as one U.S. senior official more intimately involved in the summer reporting paraphrased the president's question to the CIA: "This guy going to strike here?"



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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2004, 08:54:26 AM »
Rip,
with all do respect,
I don't understand your post in context to what I posted.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2004, 09:04:06 AM »
JBA, its just more proof that the Gov't was indeed pro-active in trying to find out what was going down prior to 9/11.

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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2004, 09:19:31 AM »
Yes I agree.
Did you read the memo, Damning that’s for sure. Would like to see it get some play in the campaign, I’m tired of Kerry already. Had enough of his “this admin is the worst in 40 years” garbage
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2004, 10:04:31 AM »
someone pls capture every memo circulated today so that after tomorrows terror attack the 20/20 hindsight experts can use them as the latest "I told you so!" :rolleyes:
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2004, 10:40:41 AM »
Sorry guys, you can't dance your way out of this one. The President has to take full responsibility for the fate of this nation, for good or bad.

President Bush has not accepted full responsibilty for his failure to prevent 9/11.

Granted, it is extremely difficult to think of every possibility, and hindsight is always 20/20....but he did ask for the job. When's he going to assume the responsibility for his failure?

LOL, President Clinton got impeached for lying about a blowjob. President Bush has gotten away cleanly with failing to prevent a horrific attack that cost the lives of thousands of people, and ruined the lives of thousands more.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Clinton is a dirtbag, but man, a little perspective on what he did compared to what Bush didn't do is simply amazing.

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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2004, 11:10:50 AM »
banana

how long do you guess it would take a new admin to get their policies and budgets in place?

did you hear what budget/policy we were still under 9/2001 in the AG's testimony yesterday?

8 months to 8 years

sry I blame the previous admin for lack of action over the preceding EIGHT years resulting in the 9/11 attack - not the new guy on the block
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2004, 11:11:35 AM »
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Originally posted by banana
Sorry guys, you can't dance your way out of this one. The President has to take full responsibility for the fate of this nation, for good or bad.

President Bush has not accepted full responsibilty for his failure to prevent 9/11.

Granted, it is extremely difficult to think of every possibility, and hindsight is always 20/20....but he did ask for the job. When's he going to assume the responsibility for his failure?

LOL, President Clinton got impeached for lying about a blowjob. President Bush has gotten away cleanly with failing to prevent a horrific attack that cost the lives of thousands of people, and ruined the lives of thousands more.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Clinton is a dirtbag, but man, a little perspective on what he did compared to what Bush didn't do is simply amazing.


banana.  Im more interested in Bush preventing 9/11 II than "admitting responsibility" for 9/11.

Where are your priorities?

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2004, 11:22:59 AM »
Well, of course, Saur. I am, too. But still, people will debate this for decades, as they have regarding the ultimate failure of Roosevelt to prevent Pearl Harbor.

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2004, 11:48:52 AM »
Do any of you know the event that "legally prevented " the FBI from sharing information......















The event was "travel Gate"

Thanks Hillary.







Furthermore it was the Clinton/Kerry/Kennedy's that cut the Budget on CIA/FBI adn it ws Clintons budget that Bush ws still under in 2001, always set the year before. The new/first Budget from Bush in 2001 increased the budget in these area dramaticly.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2004, 12:46:19 PM »
well jba

that killed this thread :) LOL
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2004, 01:00:28 PM »
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well jba

that killed this thread :) LOL


No it didn't, I went to lunch. :)

JBA, c'mon man, yer killing me. Is that the best you can do? The Clinton/Kerry/Kennedy conspiracy?

LOL, that's hilarious. :lol