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Offline BlckMgk

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« on: April 14, 2004, 09:05:03 AM »


Just wondering, not a trick question or anything..

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2004, 09:07:09 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2004, 09:28:18 AM »
Ok so of the following which LMG has the fastest rate of fire:

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  • M249 Machinegun 5.56mm
  • RPD Machinegun 7.62mm
  • 21E Machinegun 7.62mm
  • 23E Machinegun 5.56mm
  • M60E4 Machinegun 7.62mm
  • M240G Machine gun - 7.62mm belt fed
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2004, 01:02:01 PM »
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Originally posted by BlckMgk
Ok so of the following which LMG has the fastest rate of fire:

[list=1]
  • M249 Machinegun 5.56mm
  • RPD Machinegun 7.62mm
  • 21E Machinegun 7.62mm
  • 23E Machinegun 5.56mm
  • M60E4 Machinegun 7.62mm
  • M240G Machine gun - 7.62mm belt fed
  • [/list=1] [/B]



m249...thats my guess

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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2004, 01:02:36 PM »
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Originally posted by BlckMgk


Just wondering, not a trick question or anything..


RPD 7.62x54r machine gun

Offline lasersailor184

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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2004, 01:06:54 PM »
It's not an RPD: http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg14-e.htm


Plus I already answered the question.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2004, 02:52:59 PM »
5.56 mm  = light mg
7.62 = med mg

was this a trick question?

m249 800-900 rpm , think max sustained is around 140rpm

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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2004, 03:07:45 PM »
Is that a Palestinian head covering?

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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2004, 03:39:34 PM »
Light, medium, and heavy MG notations have to do with mobility, not caliber.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2004, 04:01:45 PM »
sub machine guns are pistol cal
light machine guns are around the 223 cal
med are around 30 cal
heavy are around 50 cal

if your right why are liquid cooled 30 cal machine guns classified as med?

unless things have changed...  if so and when?  what constitutes "heavy"?   whats heavy for one is not heavy for another unless there is a strict cut point between weight classes.

dunno about you but humping a m60 for 30 miles felt pretty heavy to me but it was still a med machine gun...  off i go to the gym!

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2004, 04:06:23 PM »
I was the thinking the 21E and 23E, but I really don't know.

I appreciate the help folks.. and sorry didn't mean to make it a trick question.

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2004, 04:11:38 PM »
No worries, terms get thrown around a lot so it can be confusing.  There are general classifications and then there are exceptions and sales literature.  What I'm saying is how machine guns are classified by the US military.  You can call anything what you want but I was trying to follow general guidelines.  Didn't think you were trying to trick anyone..>


So.. why does max cylclic rate matter to you?

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2004, 04:16:07 PM »
So that I can see how fast I can mow down a crowd..

No.. kidding aside.

I pretend to be an elite killing machine in a game called Ravenshield, and these are the listed LMG. and MMG offered. Recently my computer has be "downgraded" so i've been left to support role, sticking back and laying some massive amounts of fire. I usually use the m249, its a very fun weapon (in game) with a large ammo load.

Wish they had the MG3.. that'd be intense.. haha

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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2004, 04:16:19 PM »
An LMG is usually a Machine gun I.E. Mg34 that has an attached magazine or bucket for chain of bullets.  It usually doesn't have a bipod, but if it does, it's really light.

An MMG is usually a Machine gun with a heavier set up bipod.  It usually takes 2 people to fire it.  One to carry the gun and some ammo.  One to carry the bipod and some ammo.  The person who isn't firing it usually helping to feed the ammo into the gun.

A HMG heavy machine gun has a reinforced heavy tripod.  It's also fitted to sustain longer periods of being able to fire.  It usually takes at least 3 people to carry it.  One to carry the tripod, one to carry the gun and one to carry the ammo.  Often, the tripod is heavier then the gun and is split imbetween two guys with everyone carrying ammo.  It can also be set up on different supports.


Darn, world.guns.ru doesn't allow remote linking.  But every gun can be modified to be fitted to different roles.

I.E. Mg34/42.  The MG34 can have a light barrel with a 50 round magazine and a light bipod.  It can also have a heavier barrel with a 150-250 round belt a medium bipod.  It can also have a really heavy barrel, a really heavy tripod and 250 round belts.


Notice that it's roughly a .30 cal, yet it can be an LMG, MMG, and HMG depending on how you outfit it.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2004, 04:40:10 PM »
he is using interchangeable terms that are a matter of percieved relativity.  What I'm saying is there is a general rule as to how machine guns, like other guns, are classified.  I'm pretty sure it is not based on portability.  Sure, it's a "lighter " version or a "heavier" version of the same gun but that does not necessarily mean it's classified that way on the books.

Take a look at water cooled and gatling guns.  The browning 30 cal with the water cooling jacket and tripod was classified as a med machine gun.

another good example of a loose lable would be the "assault rifle"

btw... m249 would suit you just fine Blk..