Author Topic: The electoral college...do we really need it? (Read 480 times)

Delirium · « **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2004, 01:44:51 PM »

In Connecticut (as I'm sure every state has) the lines of politcal supporters for each candidate have to stay outside a certain distance from the polling location. However, they make sure that you still have to cross that 'picket line' and are without question heckling the voters.

I wear a shirt that someone made for me that says 'I will not vote for your candidate- don't ask'. They really need a system where you can vote from the comfort and privacy of your own home.

(edit) my spelling is awful today

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Delirium, there is a new electronic touch screen system being implemented, but it can be hacked, the vote counts altered and the trail can be cleaned,..all inside of 5 minutes.
It's so bad the company making and selling the systems have released the source code to the application (Windows based) asking for help to fix it.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:43:47 PM »

Delirium, they've been recently proving that it's much easier to hack electronic voting then it is to commit regular voting fraud...

Udie · « **Reply #17 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:55:11 PM »

I think the state legislatures should start electing the president. This would get more people interested in their state's politics and give the states more power over the fed. LOL It would be political suicide to even suggest such a thing though. I doubt 90% of the country realize the state legislatures can chose the president any way they want to.

1K0N · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2004, 04:08:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Delirium, there is a new electronic touch screen system being implemented, but it can be hacked, the vote counts altered and the trail can be cleaned,..all inside of 5 minutes.
It's so bad the company making and selling the systems have released the source code to the application (Windows based) asking for help to fix it.

I have talked to the florida contractor that is setting up the voting
touch screen systems, I got the impression they were setting it up on Citrix, but the rep for some reason assured me it was secure..I didn't even ask he just started spouting off about how it had passed all 5 security tests... That leaves a big question?
Why the hell would we want to trust voting security to a windows product? They will regret busting the Chad ring up..
Older people can't see a touch screen either let alone punch a hole... At least with the punchers we had an established error percent that was qualified by years of elderly abuse..

IKON

capt. apathy · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2004, 04:51:59 PM »

ditch the electoral college.

one man (or woman) one vote would be a more democratic way to go.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2004, 04:58:36 PM »

Ok, we'll get rid of the EC, but I want to see the vote returned to property owners only.

Fair enough?

Shuckins · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2004, 05:14:45 PM »

The Electoral College was created to prevent a "Tyranny of the Majority." Self-explanatory.

Regards, Shuckins/Leggern

storch · « **Reply #22 on:** April 14, 2004, 07:25:17 PM »

In a republic (which we are) the concept of the EC is vital to prevent the majority from imposing it's will on the minorities. can't we see the sense of it? It was well thought out and has served us very well indeed.

Bodhi · « **Reply #23 on:** April 14, 2004, 07:30:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Delirium, there is a new electronic touch screen system being implemented, but it can be hacked, the vote counts altered and the trail can be cleaned,..all inside of 5 minutes.
It's so bad the company making and selling the systems have released the source code to the application (Windows based) asking for help to fix it.

My bet is John Kerry is supporting it's quickest development?

Bodhi · « **Reply #24 on:** April 14, 2004, 07:31:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Ok, we'll get rid of the EC, but I want to see the vote returned to property owners only.

Fair enough?

Yeah, and base it on acres owned....

rogwar · « **Reply #25 on:** April 14, 2004, 07:32:46 PM »

I am all for the ellectoral college, would have never got an education otherwise.

Furious · « **Reply #26 on:** April 14, 2004, 08:37:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Delirium
...They really need a system where you can vote from the comfort and privacy of your own home...

absentee ballot.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #27 on:** April 14, 2004, 09:05:29 PM »

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They really need a system where you can vote from the comfort and privacy of your own home.

We've had that here for years. you are sent a ballot a month or so before the election, along with the voters pamphlet which includes each candidates arguments and position on issues, as well as pages where private citizens or organizations can state their arguments for or against on the issues.

then you mail it in or drop it by the polls on election day. so far it works great, no problems that I've heard of.

another benefit is since the different candidates or issue supporters don't know if you are going to send it in weeks early or wait until the last moment, they can't throw out outrageous accusations or claims, a day or 2 before the election, in the hope they can't be disproved before the vote.

it works a lot like the absentee ballot but all mail-ins get counted, where in most states absentees only get counted if the election is close enough to go either way.

Author Topic: The electoral college...do we really need it? (Read 480 times)

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