ra, what's modelled in AH is that you could only deflect the ailerons and elevator 10-20% or so at 450mph in the 109. What I mean by stick forces is the ammount of time it takes to go, for example, from full left aileron deflection to full right aileron deflection. Right now in AH you can do that in a nanosecond, while in RL and in WB it take a second or so.