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« Reply #135 on: April 16, 2004, 07:42:55 AM »
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Capitulation and appeasement usually are easier...but not right.


so by that weird logic every American voter who votes against George W in November is guilty of capitulation and appeasement?

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« Reply #136 on: April 16, 2004, 07:44:02 AM »
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so by that weird logic every American voter who votes against George W in November is guilty of capitulation and appeasement?


Why do you care? You have allready given up....

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« Reply #137 on: April 16, 2004, 07:54:58 AM »
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
wow...schaden guy..you are a HAnoi Jane


you are spew soi much crap   it seems good to let u run circles and pee on ur self..

 BUSH IS SATAN!!


btw..NO FRIKN WAY WE WILL BE TAKING Casualties like now in 3-5 years..

THeY will be dead in another year! ya!!:aok


btw thsi is going to be one of the QUICKEST librerations in History


America...We sure do save alot of tulips around the world..Thank god more good then bad..



and yes..OBL..days are numbered....

Love
BiGB
xoxo

P.S.  Try to wave when the Ac-130 takes ur picture.


If someone had told you that thethe US would lose control of key cities in Iraq for a week, conclude a truce with gunmen and lose 80 casualties in 7 days, a year after the war started you probably wouldn't have believed that either.....

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« Reply #138 on: April 16, 2004, 07:58:27 AM »
Shadenfreude, why does your avatar sort of resemble an Su-27, especially in the nose?

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« Reply #139 on: April 16, 2004, 09:12:01 AM »
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
If someone had told you that thethe US would lose control of key cities in Iraq for a week, conclude a truce with gunmen and lose 80 casualties in 7 days, a year after the war started you probably wouldn't have believed that either.....


Conclude a truce? There is no truce. There is a temporary cease fire, for humanitarian reasons, and at the behest of several Shiite clerics to allow them to attempt to negotiate with al-Sadr. There is no permanent truce at all, and nothing concluded.


Oh, and al-Sadr is the one now attempting to broker a deal to prevent the destruction of himself and his illegal militia. He knows he is now in an untenable position because he was not able to create a popular uprising, despite help from Iranian mullahs and backing from several notorious Islamic terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbolah, who he as aligned himself with. His illfated attempt has resulted in utter failure, and he's now doing his best to save his sorry hide.  

No, you are wrong, it is not the coalition that is seeking a truce to save themselves, it is al-Sadr. His fellow Shiite clerics are attempting to get him to turn himself in, not at all what he desired or expected. He is wanted for the murder of another Shiite cleric. The penalty for which is death. I don't see a good ending for him in this. And as was the case with Saddam, the coalition is NOT going to wait for him and his militia forever, they will surrender soon or they will perish.
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« Reply #140 on: April 16, 2004, 09:28:20 AM »
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The ONLY reason ANY of the inspection process even came CLOSE to working at all was that the coalition finally stationed 100K plus troops right across the border from Saddam. But it never REALLY worked.

IF Saddam DID NOT have any WMD's, then WHY was he so bent on making the verification of same so difficult? Ever wonder about that? IF he had actually been fully cooperative, Bush would not have had ANY basis on which to invade. IF Saddam didn't have the items in question, all he had to do to remain in power was to PROVE it in an upfront and honest manner, instead of making every effort to hinder the process. If Saddam was so innocent, and the weapons did not exist, ever, he had everything to gain by full and complete disclosure and cooperation, and nothing to lose.

Of course, given all that time to dispose of, hide, sell, or otherwise move them, it is no surprise they have not been found. Who is to say they are not in Syria, Jordan, Egypt, or hidden away in some hole in the wall somewhere in the world? They may not have ever existed (if not, then why not prove it?), then again he may have sold them to a country or group, and hoped he could escape with the proceeds in all the confusion.


Agree 100%. The US did more to allow the UN inspectors to do their job than any other country or the UN, including Hans Blix.

And the small matter of tons of WMD still not accounted for doesn't matter to the people who say we can't find them and therefore Saddam didn't have them.

Anyone ever even consider what happened to all those WMDs? Hmmmm, interesting we still can't find them, yet Hans Blix said he needed 2 more weeks. Anyone consider they could have been hidden or moved to another country?

I'm sure most opposed to the war trusted that Saddam was honest and eager to comply with the UN. Bah!

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« Reply #141 on: April 16, 2004, 09:53:29 AM »
dowding is everything that is bad about the british... he gives em a real bad name and reafirms why we wanted our independence.

I hope that some of the euro socialist lovers on this board will look at downdings example and be persuaded to avoid voting democrat this election.

as for iraq..  who here thinks that we should have left everything as it was?

I still say that it was a great example... the sadman did have WMD programs and would have had more in the future... letting him continue would be... insane.   He is a good example for the other desposts in my opinion...  When the U.S. has a strong president it will protect it's interests... when it has a weak one it will have it's soldiers drug through the streets and pull out.

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« Reply #142 on: April 16, 2004, 10:39:04 AM »
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And if OBL does matter so much to you, what the f%$çk are you fooling around in Iraq?


im afraid, that he is fooling around living room.
If he were fooling around Iraq, he may speak diferent way

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« Reply #143 on: April 16, 2004, 10:43:58 AM »
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You must have a really odd definition of pacifist.


i would say that pacifist is guy beeing born somewhere at pacific area :D

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« Reply #144 on: April 16, 2004, 11:16:24 AM »
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Shadenfreude, why does your avatar sort of resemble an Su-27, especially in the nose?


Never noticed it before but now you mention it......I picked it up when I was playing red baron online years ago in a black and silver Dr1.

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« Reply #145 on: April 16, 2004, 11:28:32 AM »
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Why do you care? You have allready given up....


I don't actually care...well apart from the £20 bet of course, however when someone comes out with something as spectacularly stupid as the previous comment one does feel an urge to question it.

I do think Grunherz, you being a red blooded American - although of course of recent vintage that you should be heading down to the nearest National Guard office and volunteer your services.

You would then be able to serve your newly acquired country by driving a truck in Iraq.

You would also perhaps acquire a little knowledge of war and what it means.

Please go and visit this site, read all the posts and reflect on what has been lost and what has been gained in return.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/

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« Reply #146 on: April 16, 2004, 11:42:01 AM »
You have made your mind up about Iraq, you think its a lost cause, you gave up. So why even bother?

and i love how how you guys always bring up that I'm an immigrant and that, somehow, you think that makes me less pf an american... You really have no clue aboutr America do you...:rolleyes:

Every time I read one of those idiotic comments from you in lesser nations it just makes me love America more...

God bless America!
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« Reply #147 on: April 16, 2004, 12:45:28 PM »
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Perhaps you could clarify things further by directing us all to the UN Security Council resolution that explicitly calls for the Invasion of Iraq by US and UK forces? Or at least to the UN Security Council meeting that decided what the "serious consequences" were and came up with "invasion by the US & UK". I can't seem to find them.


Perhaps you can clarify things by pointing us to the UN resolution against the US and UK in response to their taking action after 12 years of UN resolutions (and after the FINAL resolution)? :D

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« Reply #148 on: April 16, 2004, 12:53:54 PM »
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You have made your mind up about Iraq, you think its a lost cause, you gave up. So why even bother?

and i love how how you guys always bring up that I'm an immigrant and that, somehow, you think that makes me less pf an american... You really have no clue aboutr America do you...:rolleyes:

Every time I read one of those idiotic comments from you in lesser nations it just makes me love America more...

God bless America!


I take it you're not volunteering then?

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« Reply #149 on: April 16, 2004, 01:04:53 PM »
Thats not what I'm doing right now, I want to finish up school.. After that I have no clue what I want to do. One thing I'm maybe looking into will be doing some aid work, perhaps in afghanistan of all places...

But maybe I'll join the army, if you are honest with yourself and you join the terrorists....

Wouldnt you just love to put your old military skills and shoot up some imperialist evil amreekan storm troopers?