Author Topic: Some of Saddam's WMD in Syria? (Read 1745 times)

NUKE · « **on:** April 17, 2004, 11:28:04 AM »

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/17/112546.shtml

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Two members of an al Qaeda cell connected to top terror master Abu Musab al-Zarqawi have been caught in Jordan with chemical weapons and poisonous gas for a planned attack that Jordanian officials say would have killed up to 20,000 people.

"The bomb, had it been detonated, could have affected people in a one kilometer radius and cause the deaths of up to 20,000 people," Jordanian officials told Maariv

According to United Press International, the al Qaeda car was intercepted just 75 miles from the Syrian border and "carried explosives, a chemical bomb and poisonous gas."

The discovery of the al Qaeda WMD plot is sure to renew speculation that some of Saddam Hussein's missing weapons of mass destruction were hidden in Syria before the U.S. attacked in March 2003, and have now found their way into al Qaeda's hands.

As of Saturday morning, the White House had not commented on the al Qaeda WMD plot and its possible ties to Iraq.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Saddam's tons of unaccounted for WMD have not been found because they are well hidded or had been moved into Syria.

The fact remains that Iraq never accounted for and Hans Blix never accounted for or found tons of WMD which were known to have existed.

The fact that these WMD have never been accounted for is
usually dismissed by people who say Iraq "had no WMD" They don't seem to want to learn what became of all those weapons.

This is why I feel the US action in Iraq was justfied. Everyone knew Saddam was not complying with the UN, the UN and everyone else knew Saddam had not accounted for tons of WMD........yet they were letting Saddam dance around and were about ready to declare Iraq in compliance regardless of these facts.

The mear fact that it was possible that Iraq had WMD and was not complying is enough for me. No fooling around and waiting to see after 911 in my opinion. Certainly I wouldn't trust our security to the bumbling Hans Blix as the final word, when even he said Saddam was not cooperating.

So it came down to a war that France and Germany opposed. Big deal.....at least Iraq is in compliance now. Now we need to find out if WMD went to Syria or someplace else.

AKIron · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2004, 11:29:39 AM »

Looks like crow may be on the menu?

Delirium · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2004, 11:39:22 AM »

No, they will say it was all fabricated to save Bush's bid on the White House for November.

Never underestimate the conviction of those who are too strong willed to believe anything but the drivel they spread.

MrLars · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2004, 11:47:50 AM »

Newsmax eh?

NUKE · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2004, 11:51:25 AM »

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Originally posted by MrLars
Newsmax eh?

yeah, did you read it?

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"The officials told the London-based newspaper al-Hayat "

"According to the Israeli newspaper Maariv, the al Qaeda terrorists managed to smuggle.... "

"According to United Press International, the al Qaeda car was intercepted just 75 miles from the Syrian border and "carried explosives, a chemical bomb and poisonous gas."

I guess since I pulled the story off of newsmax, it must not be true , eh?

storch · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2004, 11:53:06 AM »

as i have previously stated. first the region, then N. Africa. Wait a second, *storch squints* is that a dread WMD i see in tripoli?

rpm · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2004, 12:24:38 PM »

If any WMD turn up I have a suspicion it will be in late October and they will likely have the "Made in USA" scratched off.

NUKE · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2004, 12:29:15 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
If any WMD turn up I have a suspicion it will be in late October and they will likely have the "Made in USA" scratched off.

Do you think it's possible that any of Saddam's unaccounted for WMD are in Syria or have been hidden? How do you rationalise the fact that tons of WMD have not been accounted for and could be anywhere?

I know Saddam was a very honest person and all, but maybe he slipped up while fully cooperating with Hans Blix and forgot to tell him where the tons of WMD were. I'm sure it's an honest oversight by a friendly leader eager to cooperate with the UN.

rpm · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2004, 12:35:55 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Do you think it's possible that any of Saddam's unaccounted for WMD are in Syria or have been hidden? How do you rationalise the fact that tons of WMD have not been accounted for and could be anywhere?

I know Saddam was blah blah blah...

Is it POSSIBLE? Yes. It is also POSSIBLE they were destroyed in the numerous attacks on Iraqi targets before the war. I know Bush is blah blah blah...

Grizzly · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2004, 01:14:16 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
Is it POSSIBLE? Yes. It is also POSSIBLE they were destroyed in the numerous attacks on Iraqi targets before the war. I know Bush is blah blah blah...

Either could be possible, but I doubt if the "numerous" attacks would have destroyed it all. Yet to be explained, or at least I haven't yet heard an explanation, are the many chem suits and gas masks found in the Iraqi army possession, and the traces of chems detected in the Tigres river during the war. Then there was the proof found of ongoing chem and bio weapons programs. To ignore all this in favor of no WMD would be politically expedient to some but pure lunacy for the world.

grizzly

Sixpence · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2004, 01:31:40 PM »

They might not be saddam's weapons. Remember the video tape found in afghanistan showing al-qaeda experimenting with chemicals and testing them on dogs? I am afraid there could be alot more than saddam's chemical weapons out there.

NUKE · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2004, 02:51:36 PM »

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/17/141224.shtml

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Jordan's King Abdullah revealed on Saturday that vehicles reportedly containing chemical weapons and poison gas that were part of a deadly al Qaeda bomb plot came from Syria

"It was a major, major operation. It would have decapitated the government," King Abdullah told the San Francisco Chronicle. Jordanian officials estimated that the death count could have been as high as 20,000 - seven times greater than the Sept. 11 attacks.

In his testimony before Congress last year, Mr. Kay said U.S. satellite surveillance showed substantial vehicular traffic going from Iraq to Syria just prior to the U.S.attack on March 19, 2003 attack.

Saddam would never lie to the UN and try to hide his WMD in Syria, so obviously they had to come from somewhere else....no other logical conclusion.

Sixpence · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2004, 03:22:44 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Saddam would never lie to the UN and try to hide his WMD in Syria, so obviously they had to come from somewhere else....no other logical conclusion.

See my post above. If you want to come that conclusion for your own purposes, go ahead, you saw the same video tape I saw.

Let's pretend that saddam has half a brain for a second. If you could not be caught with chemical weapons, what would you do with them? Hide them? Ya sure, and let America find them? Think for a second, what would be the smart thing to have done with any chemicals that you cannot be caught with. Especially if some of those chemicals may have been provided from the Americans(and who knows who else) years ago. You can't use them, you can't get caught with them. You sell them. If you are invaded by America, they never find them, they look wrong, and the weapons are in the hands of our enemies. Remember the oodles of cash we found? The last thing saddam would want would to be caught with any kind of chemical weapon for the Americans prove them right. Hide them in syria? That's a nice thought, but I think any chemicals in syria were purchased. And I wouldn't be surprised if alot more of them are buried in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Do not underestimate the intelligence of your enemy.

NUKE · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2004, 03:33:19 PM »

Well, I have been careful not to weigh in with many thoughts on Iraq's WMD or blindly assume anything about the war in Iraq.

For me, I base the justification for the US attacking Iraq, alone if needed, on the fact that the UN was telling us that Iraq had wmd and that he was not cooperating.

As long as Saddam was in power, there was no way to ensure he didn't have wmd. Saddam could have cooperated fully and avoided the war but for some reason chose not to.

Airhead · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2004, 03:39:08 PM »

"In his testimony before Congress last year, Mr. Kay said U.S. satellite surveillance showed substantial vehicular traffic going from Iraq to Syria just prior to the U.S.attack on March 19, 2003 attack."

Well, DUH. If I were an Iraqi with a car and the USA announced they were invading I'd drive to Syria too. To imply this increased vehicular traffic proves Iraq had WMD and moved it to Syria just prior to the War is laughable.