Author Topic: Saudis Lowering Gas Prices in Nov. for Bush* re-election (Read 1913 times)

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #45 on:** April 20, 2004, 07:49:06 AM »

I can understand folks not being upset if Bush was using gas prices to win an election. What I dont understand is how at the same time the dots cannot be connected on our glorious leader that he is just allowing Exxon/Mobile to rape the American peoples perhaps one last time..

If gas prices are found to be kept artifically high, what say you self proclaimed conservatives? You guys find that method of support to Bush and his 'folks' agreeable?

dude

Momus-- · « **Reply #46 on:** April 20, 2004, 07:55:34 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Hmmm the best you can do for a counterpoint is to resort to the tactics of a 5 year old and resort to namecalling.
Now theres a responce we can all take seriously:rolleyes:
And I'm the Tardling?

Your response was factually incorrect and doesn't take into account the fact that oil prices are set globally based on the market and not where your particular country happens to buy it's oil at the moment. The price set by OPEC affects the price set by the rest of the market.

Of course, if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't have posted your inane comment in the 1st place. Thus you are a tardling, or perhaps a poseur, I'm easy as to which.

lazs2 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 20, 2004, 07:57:17 AM »

in my book woodard is a liberal. A pretty oportunistic one at that.

I don't care who lowers gas prices but I won't vote for a democrat... like moving back in with your mom. apartment dwelling, prius driving women.

lazs

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #48 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:27:31 AM »

"The allegation that the kingdom is manipulating the price of oil for political purposes or to affect elections is erroneous and has no basis in fact," said a statement issued in Riyadh by top Saudi foreign policy adviser Adel al-Jubeir.

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #49 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:39:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
"The allegation that the kingdom is manipulating the price of oil for political purposes or to affect elections is erroneous and has no basis in fact," said a statement issued in Riyadh by top Saudi foreign policy adviser Adel al-Jubeir.

Since we know that HIS statement is not factual, should we consider this person a liar?

We do know that (if not now) in the past oil prices have been manipulated for election purposes.. right?

Suppose my question is why the quote of this person? I guess im needing clarification..

dude

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #50 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:51:07 AM »

The quote is contemporary (breaking news april 20) and is taken for what it is worth.

And how do you know the Saudi is lying?

Seems as though the trial is not over and the jury has already voted.

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #51 on:** April 20, 2004, 12:11:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The quote is contemporary (breaking news april 20) and is taken for what it is worth.

And how do you know the Saudi is lying?

Seems as though the trial is not over and the jury has already voted.

I never said that he was lying.. (the reason I asked)

What does the quote mean to you?? Im not hiding anything.. Im really curious..

dude

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #52 on:** April 20, 2004, 12:35:31 PM »

All the quote means to me is that there is opposing information to the theory that a conspiracy exists to manipulate the election by lowering oil prices.

This needs to go on one side of the scale, the opposing theory on the other and see how the scale balances. I'm still loading up the scale, not ready for the measurement yet.

Although I generally tend to doubt worldwide conspriracy theories.

Lizking · « **Reply #53 on:** April 20, 2004, 12:49:04 PM »

If you vote for someone because of the price of gasoline, you are an idiot.

straffo · « **Reply #54 on:** April 20, 2004, 12:59:44 PM »

Saudies are scumbag : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3643739.stm

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #55 on:** April 20, 2004, 01:05:55 PM »

TY Holden... 8)

dude

strk · « **Reply #56 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:15:11 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
in my book . . .

lazs

"Living with Herpes" - by Bill O'Reilly

lazs2 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:20:52 PM »

I didn't write Mr Oreilly's book nor do I have herpes. don't even really know the guy.

I also don't pretend to know what is going on behind the scenes with major political powers.

Lower gas prices are good... I have heard lots of democrats saying that higher gas prices would be good for America but I have never heard a Republican say such a thing.

lazs

strk · « **Reply #58 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:22:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
a conspiracy exists to manipulate the election by lowering oil prices.

a few points
1. Woodward had unprecedented access to the White House and even interviewed Bush* himself.

2. Woodward was on Larry King last night and Saudi Prince Bandar called into the show and confirmed lower oil prices for the election - to make the economy appear strong.

3. Not all conspiracy theories incorrect. Law of averages shows that some must hit on the truth.

The truth is out there folks - the emperor has no clothes.

strk · « **Reply #59 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:28:18 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I didn't write Mr Oreilly's book nor do I have herpes. don't even really know the guy.

I also don't pretend to know what is going on behind the scenes with major political powers.

Lower gas prices are good... I have heard lots of democrats saying that higher gas prices would be good for America but I have never heard a Republican say such a thing.

lazs

Well friend, how about this -

""Let us rid ourselves of the fiction that low oil prices are somehow good for the United States," Mr. Cheney, who is now vice president, said shortly after introducing the legislation.

linkage - http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/06/politics/06CHEN.html?ei=5007&en=7edcc32708d09716&ex=1396584000&adxnnl=1&partner=USERLAND&adxnnlx=1082499909-CpGVStzS9gr3fuaMJNHZGQ

Maybe you aren't paying close enough attention?