About Skuzzys post on skins

[Sled]

I was wondering why Historical skins can not be used? Seems a great way to pay Tribute, to our grandfathers.

I can understand the reasoning behind no Swastikas. This being the case why does the FM2 in the recent battles in Squad Ops. have one on it?

not trying to be argumenitive, just wondering.

Sled
USMC TFW

[_Schadenfreude_]

? I thought only historical skins could be used - the exception being use of the Nazi Swastika due to legal issues in some countries.

[Sled]

OOps, sorry about that. your right I misread, Historical skins can be used. sorry Skuzzy.

but my question on the FM2 in squad ops still stands. it has Swastikas on it.

Sled

[Skuzzy]

Happen to know what terrain that was?

[Sled]

It was the most recent Squad ops. Finruska I think it was.

there's a picture in the squad ops thread, under Finland AAR frame 3.

I hope I'm not going to get someone in trouble

Sled

[Panzzer]

About the Swastikas on the Brewsters...oops, FM-2's that is, read this.

First to avoid misunderstandings: Swastika is an ancient Aryan and Buddhist mystic symbol. Its was adopted by the Finnish Air Force years before the Nazis even existed and so it has nothing to do with them. And that's it!
The first symbol was born when Swedish von Rosen donated Thulin typ D to Finland's white army in 1918. (In Finland's early years there was cruel national war where were goverment's white army against revolutional red army). The Swastika was the symbol of Mr von Rosen and it was adopted to FAF. At the end of the second world war had world became allergic to swastika and it had to replaced.

[Sled]

Panzzer

That's good information, I never heard that before.

I personally would have no problem with the swastika being used, It is a part of history whether you like it not.

But I guess our little game can live without it.

Sled

[zmeg]

This is what he's referiing to, in Finrus,


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[Sled]

rgr zmeg thx

[Skuzzy]

That is not a swatiska.  It's what I thought you were referring to.  I just wanted to make sure.

[SELECTOR]

it might not represent the nazi's but it still is a swastika..
it is a symbol that is and always will be tied to the nazi's regardless of who used it first. be it blue black or yellow..

[Nilsen]

the Finish swastika does not represent the nazi's to me, but you are right selector....it is a swastika whatever colour combination it has.

[Sled]

Selector, Nilsen and Panzzer are correct.

It is a Swastika, How ever in this context it is not being used as a symbol of the Nazi party, it is being used to represent the Finnish Air Force, which just happened to be allied with Germany in WWII (Gee, what a coincidence) but whether it is colored, reversed, rotated 45 deg, (like the Nazis used it) that symbol is known as a Swastika.

there are many websites devoted to this symbol, just put " Swastika" in your search engine to see the history behind the symbol.

Again I have NO problem with it being used in the game.

Sled

[Kweassa]

 The "swastika" as in "swastikas not allowed" refers to the Nazi symbol by its context.

 Von Rosen's cross is accepted because, by its historical context it is very clear that it has no affiliations to Nazis and their parties.

 I'd bet HTC would allow other swastikas too, if they also had some clear historical context which everybody can understand that it has nothing to do with the Nazi symbol.

 ..

 As for why Nazi symbol cannot b used - it's a legal matter. If it sucks, then go protest to Europe, not to HTC.

[Sled]

I don't get the impression that anyone is protesting anything.

SLED